Here’s an example of him saying, you know what, he does have a responsibility as president of the United States, but also as first African-American president of the United States, to not sit silent because, you know what, it might cause swing voter political problems. You know, you’ve got to be able to have a mature discussion about this.

You and I have watched probably all week — you know, not all parts of cable television, I’m not referring to our channel, I’m talking about all parts of the political discussion hasn’t been very mature on this topic. And I think this was a case of the president saying, ‘hey, let me try to lift it up.’