Former president Bill Clinton suggests in a new interview with PBS that his wife’s decision to grant an interview to New York magazine — her first media foray in a long time — doesn’t say much about her presidential ambitions.

“We’re not nearly as political as everyone thinks we are,” Clinton said. “We don’t sit around all the time talking about this. We swim in the afternoon everyday, and if either one of us even mentions a political topic, we will stop the other one and just talk about the weather or whatever.” …

“Get healthy, write your book, do your charitable work,” he said. “We don’t need a four-year presidential campaign.”