On why President JOE BIDEN never wanted to have Sen. JOE MANCHIN and Sanders together in the same room: “Biden has a great sense of humor. … When we were discussing the Build Back Better, I said, ‘Mr. President, why don’t you just get Bernie Sanders and Joe Manchin in the room and hammer this out? You don’t need all these conversations … just cut the deal, and whatever those two agree with, with you, that’ll be the road map.’ And he looks at [Rep.] PETER WELCH, who is the congressman from Vermont, and he says, ‘You know, Ro thinks he knows Bernie because he was the co-chair. But Peter, you and I know Bernie, right?’ And he says, ‘What Ro’s asking for is homicide, to put them in a room.’ And he says, ‘It’d be like, Ro, you and me boxing: I’d beat the hell out of you, but why would we want to see it?’”