This Is What 'Secure' Means When Liberals Talk About Voting

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We keep being gaslit about how secure American elections are, but the reality is quite different. 

By now, it shouldn't shock you that yet another Democrat has been caught committing election fraud, and this story in particular is not the point of this post. All the commentary from election officials and lawyers is. So stick around to find out just how these people define "double voting," or actually how they argue that it may be legal to vote in two different states in the same election. 

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First things first: Antanette Mosley was appointed to a vacancy on the Asheville City Council to fill out the term of a council member who left the post. Then she ran for and won that seat in the next election. 

She also owned a home that she claimed was her permanent residence in Georgia, and claimed a tax exemption for the house. She also let her voter registration lapse, but then re-upped it despite living in North Carolina. 

And she voted from both places. Pretty simple case, right? You would think so, but no, it is not according to the experts, who inform us that despite there being laws supposed to prevent such things, the reality is quite different, and Mosley may get away with her voter fraud

The arguments are Clintonian and come down to how you define an election. 

Elections experts said that the law regarding double voting is notoriously murky and is particularly difficult to prove when it involves more than one state.

“It is not always clear when double voting has happened across state lines, given the variation among states’ policies,” according to the National Conference of State Legislatures website, in part because state laws vary so much “regarding the definition of ‘voting more than once’ and particularly what happens if a voter casts a ballot in more than one state.

States commonly prohibit voting more than once ‘in the same election,’ but this can be interpreted in different ways,” the NCSL webpage says. “Is voting in more than one state on the same day voting in the ‘same election?’ Or is each state-run election a separate election? What if voting occurred on different days – that is, a voter cast an absentee ballot in one state and voted in person in another state on Election Day?

“Since the U.S. has a very mobile population and voters rarely inform elections officials when they move, voters can often be on the voter rolls in two (or more) states at one time,” the organization also says, and “voter registration in multiple states is not itself a crime, and thus no one can be prosecuted for simply having two open voter registrations in different jurisdictions.”

Mack McKeller, the Brevard city attorney who advises elected officials on voting law, also said the rules regarding double voting are unclear.

Georgia election law does not require that voters live in the state for a specific period of time before casting a ballot. North Carolina requires voters live in the district where they vote at least 30 days before the election.

Nothing in those time frames would have necessarily blocked Mosley from voting in the two states in 2012, McKeller said. “Theoretically, you could qualify for both.”

“Is it, on its face, automatically voting twice in the same election? I can’t tell,” he said of Mosley’s 2012 votes. “I don’t know what the short answer is because, technically, it’s a separate election.”

Robert Joyce, a professor of public law and government at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill’s School of Government, singled out a phrase in the state law about double voting – one stating it is a felony “to vote illegally in any primary or election” – as especially confounding.

“What it says, pared down and leaving out extraneous stuff, is it’s a felony to vote illegally. That’s kind of a tautology. It doesn’t tell you what voting illegally is,” he said.

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Huh? Wut? 

I don't know about you, but to me, that sounds like pure sophistry, but then again, law is basically sophistry half the time. I can't wait to find out that if one is a Christian or a Buddhist and believes in the afterlife, it is impossible to murder you since your soul remains. 

The thing is, when Americans are told that our elections are the most secure in the world, that is absolutely false. Most developed countries have sophisticated systems to ensure that people are who they say they are, that they are eligible to vote, and that they vote only once. 

Our system is more like a third-world free-for-all. But any time you bring that up, you are attacked as an "election denier," except when Democrats lose elections, in which case, obviously, Russia hacked it. 

It's pure gaslighting, and a lot of people who claim to believe the BS know better. All the claims about racism or the inability of minorities to get photo identification amount to handwaving to hide the fact that they don't want to know about all the voter fraud because they like the results. 

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I've participated in recounts here in Minnesota, with elections decided by handfuls of votes, and seen how the system gets manipulated in obvious ways. There are countless less obvious ways as well, and even Democrats who loudly proclaim how fair elections are here will mutter or even loudly complain when Somalis commit fraud, as they did in the Minneapolis Mayoral endorsement process. 

Few people I know who claim to believe that the system is perfectly fair actually do believe it, and will dance around the issue in private. Every case of proven voter fraud is an outlier, and they work mightily to keep it looking that way by preventing any way to ensure voter integrity. 

Every time I see a voter stroll in with a niqab, unable to speak a word of English, I naturally suspect she is ineligible to vote. How could I not? There are zero checks on cheating, and no way to audit the vote. 

Everybody knows that votes are quite valuable—look how much money is spent to get them, and how much money and power the government controls. Of course people will break the law to win elections. People break the law to steal a VCR or the spare cash in your wallet, and a vote is far more valuable than that, and breaking the law to cast one is as risky as jaywalking. 

People will steal anything of value; why should elections be different? 

The least we can do is install a few locks to prevent theft. 

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