Schumer: It's 25th Amendment time

Pelosi’s holding a press conference at 1 p.m. ET, which may or may not mean that she’s going to echo Schumer’s call.

If so, I don’t understand why either of them would push the 25th Amendment, tactically or strategically.

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But then I also don’t understand why the House has adjourned until Monday at a moment of national crisis.

AOC’s onboard too:

Three reasons why it’s a bad idea for Schumer to get in front of this. One: If there is some effort among the cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment, now it’ll look like it was done at Democrats’ behest. If it’s going to happen, it should be ringled by Republicans to make it harder for Trump to complain that this is some sort of “Democratic coup.”

Two: Impeachment is seen as more legitimate by the public. The 25th Amendment has never been invoked; most Americans couldn’t even tell you what it says in basic terms. Impeachment, on the other hand, has been used by both parties in the past. It doesn’t seem as irregular.

Three: The 25th Amendment has a higher procedural bar than impeachment and therefore would probably only result in Trump’s powers being stripped for a few days. Quote:

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Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

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In other words, Pence and the cabinet send Congress a letter saying, “Trump’s incapacitated so Pence is president now.” Trump immediately turns around and sends a letter saying, “I’m fine.” Pence and the cabinet then send another letter saying, “No, you’re not.” Then Congress meets within two days — and has to get *supermajorities* of both chambers to agree that the VP is the rightful president or else Trump remains in charge. I’m highly skeptical that Pelosi could get the 80+ votes she’d need from the MAGAfield Republicans in the House to clear that bar. Under impeachment, all she’d need is a simple majority of the House, which is a sure thing. Then it’d be McConnell’s problem to find 19 Republican senators willing to remove. That’s not a sure thing, but it’s not a no-chancer either under the circumstances. The Senate GOP has behaved far more independently than the House GOP has over the past few days.

So why is Schumer even raising the 25th Amendment? All I can think is that Dems do intend to pursue impeachment but they’re giving the cabinet a chance to act first. Then, when the cabinet declines, Dems can say, “Oh well, guess we have no choice but to act.”

There’s one other major advantage to impeachment over the 25th Amendment. If Trump is impeached and removed, the Senate can bar him from future federal office. No 2024 campaign. That doesn’t happen with the 25th Amendment — and no, unfortunately, it’s no answer to say, “Surely Americans wouldn’t re-elect a man who’d been removed by his own cabinet for mental incapacity.” Have you looked at the state of this country lately?

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Until this week, the 25th Amendment was a complete nonstarter for a simple reason: Could anyone imagine the most obsequious VP in American history invoking it against Trump, knowing how doing so would immolate Pence’s chances of inheriting Trump’s base in a presidential primary? But things change:

“I’ve known Mike Pence forever,” Inhofe said Tuesday night. “I’ve never seen Pence as angry as he was today.

“I had a long conversation with him,” said Inhofe. “He said, ‘After all the things I’ve done for (Trump).’”

Sometimes they change a lot:

No doubt Pence would very strongly prefer to let Pelosi and McConnell take the lead against Trump from here on out. But there is one advantage to the 25th Amendment over impeachment: Immediacy. As David Priess and Jack Goldsmith note at Lawfare, the ping-pong between letters from the VP and the president over his alleged incapacity could freeze Trump out of power for a few days. If Pence and the cabinet submit a letter this afternoon insisting that Trump is incapacitated and then Trump responds, the second letter from Pence and the cabinet could be filed immediately. That would leave Pence in charge for 48 hours. During that time, Congress could meet to impeach and remove Trump, leaving Pence in charge permanently. Impeachment takes time; the 25th Amendment could buy the necessary time.

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It would require a major bipartisan team effort, though, with much of the GOP base howling all the way. And American politics in 2020 isn’t known for major bipartisan team efforts.

Whatever happens, Trump leaving office solves only part of the problem. He appears to have had no real objection to the terrorism perpetrated yesterday by his fans. And no doubt they’ve noticed. Exit quotation from Maggie Haberman: “They’re concerned about insurrections popping up around the country, especially because the president is so incredibly cued into his supporters.”

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David Strom 5:20 PM | April 19, 2024
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