“Now, Van, you do spend a lot of time, you know, threading the middle and trying to unite people, but there are those who really accuse you of being a political opportunist, a chameleon, so to speak, who provided racial cover for former, disgraced, twice-impeached President Trump,” Hostin began. “You said this, and I quote, ‘Donald Trump, and I get beat up by liberals every time I say this, but I’m gonna keep saying it. He has done good stuff for the Black community. Opportunity zone stuff, Black college stuff. There’s a side to Donald Trump that I think he does not give enough credit for.'”

Hostin then recalled Jones shedding tears of joy after the network called Joe Biden’s victory in the 2020 presidential election his statement that ‘it’s easier to be a parent now, character matters now, truth matters,’ and his invocation of George Floyd by saying people “couldn’t breathe.”

“People in the Black community don’t trust you anymore,” Hostin told Jones. “What is your response?”

“I don’t think that that’s true,” Jones pushed back. He then explained the context of his quote praising Trump, which also mentioned what Jones called the “horrific stuff” the 45th president also did.