As every reporter who’s ever been butt-dialed by the president’s personal attorney knows, Giuliani plays fast and loose with telecommunications security. If he looped Trump into a call without the White House’s knowledge, there’s little question that the Russians would have had the ability to intercept the call. If such a call took place, it’s impossible to believe that anyone in the West Wing could have known about it without setting off a fire alarm.

So, if such a call actually occurred, its contents could prove that Trump was actually simply obsessed with some CrowdStrike conspiracy theory or the Bidens as they pertain to Ukrainian corruption, rather then hellbent on using foreign governments to investigate his domestic political foes.