“Now, I was one of those lured into the naïve ideas about Iraq and even nation-building,” she said. “I finally saw the light, thank goodness.”

The conversation returned to Ukraine.

Greenwald asked, “The question every American should be asking is, why do I care about the borders of Ukraine enough to risk American treasure when we have so many problems at home?”

“I think if you did a national poll,” responded Ingraham, “it’d be like one percent – I mean, if that – that actually wanted to spend American treasure and potentially lives in Ukraine. You know, as much as we might love the Ukrainian people, this is Europe’s conflict if they want to fight.”