“Listen, I don’t think Dr. Malone does himself or those of us who are trying to raise questions about the vaccines any favors, when he refers to himself as the inventor of the mRNA technology,” argued Berenson. “That is clearly a large exaggeration. And I don’t think he does us any favors, when he says that ivermectin has been proven to work. I think that is a huge overstatement of the case.”

“This is not ‘get the guest’ hour,” Fox News host Raymond Arroyo interjected.

Malone, a virologist and immunologist by profession who has been criticized for spreading vaccine misinformation, did indeed help develop early iterations of the mRNA platform in the late 1980s and early 90s, but was not involved in the development of the COVID-19 vaccines being used today. During the initial stages of the pandemic, Malone studied the use of Pepcid, the over-the-counter heartburn reliever, as a possible treatment for COVID, with the Trump administration’s blessing. (It didn’t work.)…

“That’s a low blow,” Malone fired back, while claiming he was in fact the inventor of mRNA technology. He went on to argue in favor of using the unproven anti-parasitic drug ivermectin to fight COVID. “Both of your statements are going to fail with the test of time, but that’s not this discussion.”