Reines said his biggest fear for the Democratic Party is that they realize, only in hindsight, that dismissing Clinton for the errors she made in 2016 was a mistake.

“Chalking the loss up to her being a failed candidate is an oversimplification,” Reines said. “She is smarter than most, tougher than most, she could raise money easier than most, and it was an absolute fight to the death.”

Does Reines plugging Clinton as a viable 2020 candidate mean that she’s running?

“It’s somewhere between highly unlikely and zero,” he said, “but it’s not zero.”