One of the mostly-unsung heroes of grassroots conservatism is Paul Jacob. He has spent his life helping conservatives organize against the reach of government through grassroots movements, mostly through the initiative process where applicable. I talk to Paul about how that almost landed him in prison in Oklahoma for ten years, and how conservatives and libertarians need to push for change through local and state initiatives — and why that challenges the entrenched powers in the legislatures:

Paul’s organization is Citizens in Charge. People need to get organized to get initiative processes in all 50 states as a check on power, regardless of party affiliation.