“I can’t entertain the idea of him winning, so let’s just preface it by that,” Clinton told journalist Kara Swisher while a guest on her podcast. “Well, because it makes me literally sick to my stomach to think that we’d have four more years of this abuse and destruction of our institutions, and damaging of our norms and our values, and lessening of our leadership, and the list goes on.”

Swisher, whose podcast is part of the New York Times Opinion network, asked if Clinton felt any “fear” that Trump would go after her legally if he wins.

“There’s no doubt that he would do everything he could to attack and punish anyone who was, in his view, an adversary,” Clinton said. “And he would be aided and abetted, sadly, by both elected and appointed officials.”