Brzezinski, a consistent advocate of women’s rights, opened her defense of Biden cautiously, describing this as a “very extensive and careful conversation that we need to have.”

She then defended Biden who she described as a friend “There’s a lot of things I know about Joe Biden– I’ve known him for a long time — he is extremely affectionate extremely flirtatious in a completely safe way,” adding “I am sure that somebody can misconstrue something he’s done. But as much as I can know what’s in anyone’s heart, I don’t think there is bad intent on his part at all.”