Todd then asked about the potential cooperation of Michael Cohen, and whether the Trump team is worried about that. The former Mayor characterized Cohen as one among several “victims” of Mueller.

“No, in fact, if he wants to cooperate I think it’s great,” said Giuliani. “We’ve been through all his records. I know Michael. There’s no, he has no evidence of, nor was he involved in anything untoward with the President. The fact is Michael has been a victim here like a lot of other people.”

“So you want Michael Cohen to cooperate with the feds? You think that’s a good development for the President if he does?” Todd asked.

“Yes,” said Giuliani. “I have every indication there’s nothing in this investigation that has any ability to touch the President.”