The White House has said Shulkin resigned from the VA. But pressed by moderator Chuck Todd on the nature of his departure, Shulkin denied he was asked to submit a letter of resignation. He added that he had spoken to President Donald Trump only hours before his departure was announced and was scheduled to meet with him the following morning.

“We actually spoke the day that he sent the tweet out just a few hours before,” Shulkin said of Trump. “And we talked a lot about issues at VA that were important and how we could continue to make progress on policy issues.”