“We’ve given in to nativism and protectionism,” he said. “And I think that if we’re going to be a governing party in the future and a majority party, we’ve got to go back to traditional conservatism.”

He also lamented the viciousness happening on the right, pointing to Anthony Scaramucci‘s profane rant from last week as an example. He lamented how “we as Republicans kind of gave away the limited government mantle when we spent like crazy” in years past and ended up focusing on “wedge issues.”