Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is defending her role in the decision by former President Joe Biden to withdraw from the 2024 race, admitting that she has yet to speak with the former president or former First Lady Jill Biden.

Biden made history last July by dropping out of the race after mounting pressure from Democratic lawmakers following his disastrous debate performance against now-President Donald Trump.

Pelosi was widely seen as a key figure behind the Democratic effort to push Biden out of the race. Since then, reports suggest tensions between the Bidens and Pelosi have remained strained, Fox News noted.

MSNBC host Andrea Mitchell questioned Pelosi about Biden’s insistence—expressed even in the final days of his presidency—that he could have defeated Trump had he not been pressured to step aside.