We recently told you how U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy issued an advisory declaring “gun violence” to be a “public health crisis” and recommending it be treated as such. Since then, many people, politicians and organizations have pushed back against the illogical idea.

As some background, on June 25 Murthy announced the declaration in the form of a 40-page publication outlining the scope of what he called “firearms violence,” but is actually violent crimes committed by violent criminals illegally using lawfully made and legally sold guns. At the time, he stated: “Gun violence is a public health crisis in our country and requires a public health solution. We read and hear about episodes of gun violence in our communities, but I believe that we may not appreciate the full of its ripple effects across our country.”

At the time, Murthy based the need for the advisory on the oft-repeated lie that the publication put front and center on page 4: “Firearms are the leading cause of death for children and adolescents”—a variation on, “More kids die from guns than any other reason.” In fact, during the CBS interview, Murthy said, “Gun violence has now become the leading cause of death among kids and teens.”