“We get that, Marie,” Faulkner interrupted. “The point that we are arguing today has to do with what Colorado has done. And, I want to understand you. So, what you’re saying is, it was wrong to take Trump off the ballot. And what you’re saying is politically — ”

“That’s not what I said.”

“So, you think he should be taken off the ballot?” Faulkner asked.

“I am not legal expert. I think the 14th Amendment ia gray area where legal experts across the political divide have different opinions on what, actually, it says.”