Yet a former guest on Tucker Carlson Today, Carlson’s midday program that aired on Fox Nation, told The Spectator they were stunned to read of the allegations in Grossberg’s suit — because she had expressed in several phone calls how much she loved her job at Carlson’s show. There was a “stark contrast,” this source said, between how she spoke about working for Carlson and the seriousness of the claims made in her lawsuit.

Grossberg bonded with the guest over their expertise on toxic corporate culture and, over the course of a few months in late 2022, had several hour-long phone calls to discuss sexism and toxicity in the workplace. According to the guest, at no time did Grossberg ever suggest that she was experiencing issues in her current role with Tucker Carlson, whose show she worked for as a booker from July 2022 to March 2023.

Instead, the guest says she spoke positively of Carlson and her colleagues on his show, and expressed that she felt she was in a much healthier work environment compared to her time at Sunday Morning Futures. Grossberg made frequent complains about Bartiromo herself, who she described as a “narcissist” and a “modern-day Norma Desmond,” a reference to the deluded antagonist of the classic movie Sunset Boulevard.

“In her words to me, and I think I got her to a place of candor… she loved everything about her current role,” the guest, who spoke under condition of anonymity, said of Grossberg. “She admired Tucker even though she hadn’t even met him. She had nothing but great things to say about the entire team.”