Van Jones: "It's not much of a pebble"

Transcript via CNN:

FARAH GRIFFIN: Yeah, things are probably looking up after the former president read the indictment, which his team’s going to interpret us then and that’s going to be their message tonight. I expect to hear him be indignant. After a day where he, you know, as I mentioned earlier was really out of control of the situation.

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He didn’t define the terms. He didn’t get to choose the audience he was speaking to. We didn’t get to get to come and go as you want to. Now, he’s back home. He’s at his club. He’s surrounded by supporters and even Mitt Romney, a constant detractor of the former president, came out and said, you know he’s unfit to be president. I don’t support him again. However, this is a weak case by the D.A.

So he’s seeing even people like Mitt Romney. Give him that feedback. I think he’s going to use this moment is a reset to say my people are with me. They reportedly have raised $10 million in the last couple of weeks since this came down, and it’s going to say, you know, it’s a time to be on our side of this because it’s a political witch.

COOPER: Does this hurt? I mean, I’m throwing this up to the channel. Does this hurt the other cases right now being pursued?

JONES: I worry. I mean, look, if this is the only pebble that gets thrown at Donald Trump, it’s a very small pebble. If it’s the first pebble in an avalanche of other indictments that strike more to the heart of, I think people’s core concern about Donald Trump, which is his threat to democracy.

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So, this is the first pebble, the next one is about the election interference in Georgia. The next one is about the coup, the insurrection in January 6th. The next one is about him hoarding these documents and why then it begins to fit.

But if this is the only pebble, it’s not much of a pebble and I do think it could. It could, that the backlash against this pebble might cow other people who might otherwise have been courageous enough to step forward.

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