Hilton: “Congressman Jim Jordan. I mean, look, there is a lot to get into, but I think the essential point here about the origins, as we’ve said many times, the most likely source of these experiments that Fauci personally pushed through, against the rules that were in place under the Obama Administration and a different set of rules under the Trump Administration. He personally pushed it through. The recklessness of that, he must be held accountable.”
JORDAN: “No, you’re exactly right. Understand what Fauci knew right from the get-go. He gave the money to EcoHealth, EcoHealth wasn’t properly vetted, did not comply with their grant requirements, wasn’t reporting like they were supposed to, they then sent the money — EcoHealth then sent the money to a lab in China that wasn’t up to code and was doing gain-of-function research. And what happens we get a deadly virus that comes from the very city in China where that lab is at, but Dr. Fauci says, ‘No, no it didn’t come from a lab. It was a bat to a pangolin to a hippopotamus to Joe Rogan, and then millions of people get this virus.’ I mean, nobody believes that, but Fauci still insists that’s what happened. And what did he do? So, Steve, he knew all this on January 31st, 2020, almost three years ago. What did he do? The very next day, February 1st, he organizes a conference call and only him and Collins get on that call with eleven virologists. He didn’t tell the president, he didn’t tell the other experts in the government. He gets on this conference call so they can get their stories straight and continue to mislead the American people and mislead the world, and we all know the implications and consequences of this whole virus and what it did to our liberties, what it did to our economy, what it did to kids’ education, and on and on it goes. But he knew from — he got an e-mail, January 31st, 10:32 P.M., from Dr. Kristian Andersen, and that e-mail says, ‘Virus looks engineered, virus not consistent with evolutionary theory.’ That’s a fancy way of saying, ‘This thing came from a lab.’ And he downplays it, changes his story, and he calls folks like you who had the truth, he says, ‘Oh, you are a conspiracy theorist. Jim Jordan is crazy if you think it came from the lab.’ Well, we think it did because that’s where all the evidence points, for goodness sake. So, yeah, we’re going to investigate this. This guy is bad news, and you know it and so many other people do as well. “
Hilton: “Exactly. There is one thing I am kind of obsessed about and I’d love to sort of put it you very precisely, which is, you know, we will make the arguments, you will get the investigations, it will all happen, and I think the probability that that’s what happened, that it came from the lab in Wuhan and so on, it will be established but not so conclusively, that those who are on the other side can still say, ‘Well, there is no real evidence because the Chinese regime covered up the evidence and it’s probably too late.’ However, the bit where we can prove something is that Fauci broke the rules to commission this research, because there has to be a paper trail showing within the NIH and the NIAID showing how he got around the rules. And that, presumably, is professional misconduct that he can be sanctioned for in some way.”
JORDAN: “Yeah, he went around what’s called the P3CO process, this review process, and we actually have one e-mail that says they re-reviewed — that’s the term they used — ‘re-reviewed your application, EcoHealth, you don’t have to go through the P3CO process.’ So Fauci made the decision on his own, ‘We won’t do the process we’re supposed to follow if you’ll give research grants and they’ll be doing gain-of-function research.’ He went around it. This was Fauci’s fiefdom. That is why he was so focused on getting the story straight on February 1st and calling anyone who disagreed with what he did, calling us crazy. And frankly, this is where the whole misinformation came in as well. If you said something against what he did, oh my goodness, that’s when the government came in, with the help of Big Tech, to censor that speech as well. That is what is so wrong and why we have to make sure we expose it all so it doesn’t happen again.”
Hilton: “Exactly. Congressman Jordan, thank you so much for being with us. What a great conversation.”
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