"I mean, how mad can you get at Joe Biden?"

CNN obtained audio Tuesday from New York Times reporters Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns, authors of a new book. Martin interviewed Graham on Jan. 6, 2021 after the Capitol had been attacked:

GRAHAM: We will actually come out of this thing stronger. Moments like this reset. It’ll take a while. People will calm down. People will [say] “I don’t want to be associated with that.” This is a group within a group. What this does, it’ll be a rallying effect for a while, where the country says, “We’re better than this.”

MARTIN: And Biden will be better, right?

GRAHAM: Totally, he’ll be maybe the best person to have, right? I mean, how mad can you get at Joe Biden?