Former President Barack Obama, 60, and former First Lady Michelle, 58, are looking at new deals with other companies, three podcast industry sources told Insider.

The duo’s Higher Ground Audio company signed a three-year deal with Spotify in June 2019, but sources say it can be hard to get a show green-lit at the Swedish music streamer.

Moreover, the Obamas are more interested in putting forth ‘young new voices’ rather than on carrying shows themselves, according to Vanity Fair, which first reported rumblings of the couple’s dissatisfaction.