Later, it was Keilar’s turn as the “big lie” of election fraud turned to misinformation about Covid-19 and the underlying science that many Americans appear to be willing to consume. “You were enabling the big lie by the acquiescence, by being there for months while he told it, but you were also there during Covid,” Keilar noted, before asking, “In this totality, do you think your enabling cost lives?

“I do,” she replied. “I think the way we handled Covid was tragic. I think that the president’s vanity got in the way. He was working for his base. He was not working for this country. He, you know, didn’t wear a mask quickly enough.”

“And this isn’t an excuse, but I also worked for Mrs. Trump. I was so proud because she was out there doing press and wearing a mask and trying to push it,” she continued. “Naive as this is, I kept hoping she would convince her husband, you know, ‘Please get out there, Donald. Get out there.’ But, yes, again, I was part of that. I don’t think I’ll ever forgive myself with respect to covid. I don’t think I can ever redeem myself.”