Wallace jumped in to ask about Stefanik specifically and whether Cheney believes she’s “betraying Republican voters” by embracing Trump so strongly. Cheney responded that her last remarks to House Republicans as conference chair were that “if they were looking for leaders who would be complicit in spreading the big lie, I wasn’t their person.” Wallace brought up Cheney’s public criticisms of House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and said, “I ask this about both McCarthy and Elise Stefanik — are they being complicit in what you consider the Trump lies?” “They are,” Cheney said. “And I’m not willing to do that.”