“I’m not terribly popular with my party in the state of Utah,” Romney said. “But that consequence is nowhere near as great as the consequence of violating your own conscience.”

Romney also talked about why he chose to join a Black Lives Matter march in Washington in June.

“It’s pretty straightforward for me,” he said. “Black Lives Matter is a statement saying that we have a justice system and a law enforcement system which from time to time does not exercise equal and fair justice. And that’s an important message.”

Romney gave another reason he joined the march: “I have an African American grandson.”