Stango in Florida said he’s not yet switching to Joe Biden: “Right now at least, I’m for Trump.”

Harrington in Des Moines agreed. For all her misgivings about the president, she’s actually enthusiastic about a second term.

“Even though his character might be bad, he is supporting religious freedom, religious rights, right to life, which the Democratic Party are not.”

A lot of older Trump voters interviewed by NPR echoed these ideas, saying they like Joe Biden but think his party has moved too far to the left.

This is a voting block that is far more white and rural than the country as a whole.

Many told NPR they reject the argument that Donald Trump is racist and are troubled by Democrats’ embrace of the Black Lives Matter movement.