Brennan directly asked Gottlieb, “Is it advisable for him to be going to these places where there are upticks and holding rallies? Would you go?”

“I would certainly counsel against it,” Gottlieb said. “If I was giving advice to the administration on this, I would say that they should withhold large political rallies right now. They also need to lead by example. And so encouraging people to social distance, encouraging people to wear masks, that’s what we should be engaging in right now.”