“Harvard University. Transcripts,” Lewandowski retorted. “You raised the issue. Did he ever release them—“

Rye then referred to the fact that Obama was the first black editor of Harvard Law Review, as Lemon tried to steer the conversation by asking Lewandowski why it was germane to bring up Obama’s Harvard transcripts.

“Look, the only reason it’s germane is because she brought the issue up and said Donald Trump raised the issue of his Harvard transcripts,” Lewandowski, a paid CNN contributor, said. “And I just simply said … have those ever been released, and the question was did he get in as a U.S. citizen or was he brought into Harvard University as a citizen who wasn’t from this country?”

The White House released Obama’s long-form birth certificate in 2011 showing that he was indeed born in Hawaii after Trump stoked the prospect of the president being born elsewhere.