But Trump is clearly getting through to at least some of the blue-collar workers who voted for Democrats as recently as 2012. In six polls conducted this month, Trump leads Clinton, 58 percent to 30 percent, among white voters without a college degree, a major improvement over Mitt Romney’s performance four years ago, according to a New York Times analysis.

On an individual personal level, it rarely takes much time at a Trump or RNC event these days to find union members like the Kempers in Cleveland ready to vote against Clinton and the Democrats and their own union leadership, by casting a vote for Trump.

“The factories, I actually believe he will get those up and going again in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, the Rust Belt,” Nicholas Kemper said. “I think he’ll do a good job with those states.”

His dad nodded in agreement, but added, “Of course we don’t have a track record with him,” he said. “So we don’t really know.”