“Well, with all due respect sir, I’m not sure it looks that way to the public,” host Jake Tapper replied.

Tapper listed off a series of recent attacks that have rocked the world in the past several weeks, including the horrific shooting at a gay nightclub in Orlando and the attack in the French city of Nice.

“This is just the last five weeks,” the CNN host said. “I don’t think ISIS is on the run.”

Kerry replied by saying it “depends on where you mean ISIS,” arguing the terror group’s involvement in Orlando and Nice wasn’t entirely clear.