Christie: I have to win some more than that. It won’t happen quickly. But if it’s not me, who’s it going to be?

Goldberg: Hillary Clinton? Marco Rubio? Ted Cruz?

Christie: Why Marco Rubio? I’m fascinated by this.

Goldberg: He’s a very smart, articulate young guy, great personal story—

Christie: —I didn’t ask you to give me what you read in the Times.

Goldberg: He’s very smart. I’ve talked to him. Very likable.

Christie: There’s not a lot of depth there.

Goldberg: Do you have huge foreign-policy depth?

Christie: No, but I have much greater depth at making decisions.