And given the horror in Paris, not to mention the downed Russian airliner and suicide bombings in Beirut, Tapper said, “If this is what ISIS looks like contained, I shudder to think what ISIS looks like uncontained.”

Rhodes said that the U.S. has been able to stop ISIS advances in specific regions, but when he said “we have to be one step ahead,” Tapper asked incredulously, “One step ahead? We don’t seem to be one step ahead of any terrorist group these days!”

He brought up the continued criticisms that the president and the White House “may continue to underestimate” ISIS and put things into stark perspective when he said, “This is the worst atrocity in France since Hitler!”