“He’s a former pizza company executive,” she said.

“Is he that?” said Karzai.

“Oh, yes. He started something called Godfather’s pizza,” she said.

“Yes, I see, I see,” he said.

She continued about how Karzai had seen a news clip: “The president was saying he saw a news clip about how Mr. Cain had said I don’t even know the names of all these presidents of all these countries, you know, like whatever,” she said, laughing.