I don't know about you, but I got nothing out of the Vice Presidential debate. It was a total snorefest.
J.D. Vance is about 30 IQ points above Time Walz, but you would never know it from the VP debate. Vance did better than Walz, but that was a given. What didn't happen was a Walz collapse or explosion, and I was hoping to see my governor show his true colors by exploding with rage as he has in the past.
I am sad to say that since I wanted Vance to beat Walz over the head in the debate, I think that neither of them scored a single point. Half an hour in, most people had turned the channel to something more interesting.
CBS poll: Who won VP debate? (debate watchers)
— InteractivePolls (@IAPolls2022) October 2, 2024
🟥 J.D. Vance: 42%
🟦 Tim Walz: 41%
⬜ Tie: 17% pic.twitter.com/wgLYmujdhf
I wish that weren't so. I wanted Vance to trounce Walz, but I would have been just as happy to have gone to bed than to have watched the back and forth between Walz and Vance. Neither scored a point, and neither said anything that moved a vote.
Frankly, I had a hard time following what either of them said. They were each talking too fast, saying too little, and scoring no points if you weren't keeping score in increments of tenths of a point.
The one point where Walz collapsed was when he was asked about his lies. He had nowhere to go, and went nowhere when (not) answering.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 2, 2024
Both were talking at about 150% speed, while neither said anything that mattered to people. Lots of issues came up, but except for censorship and the preservation of democracy, not much was said. On that issue I thought Vance hit on all the right points, but most people aren't focused on those issues as you and I are.
Vance gave an outstanding closing statement, but that was the only thing that stood out to me. It seemed to me that both Vance and Walz were trying to hold serve rather than score points and win the debate.
Of course, you could argue that the race will be determined by what people think about Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, not J.D. Vance and Time Walz, so going for a knockout blow would make no sense.
Tactically speaking, Vance looked better than Walz. Strategically, nothing moved. Frank Luntz's focus group like Vance better, so there is that. They are the people who count, not me.
Final focus group vote tonight after the #VPDebate: 12-2 in favor of JD Vance pic.twitter.com/LgahO2za7C
— Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) October 2, 2024
Oh, well. What do I know? The viewers get to decide who wins. I am too close to the process to really judge.
I am way too close and way too focused on issues. Debates are won in the news cycle after they take place and not on the stage. So we will really know what happened once the polls tell us. All I know is that there was no knockout blow. At least not that you saw on stage, but debates are often won or lost during the news cycle.
🚨🇺🇸 CNN: WALZ OVER-PREPARED AND FAILED TO CONNECT DURING DEBATE
— Mario Nawfal (@MarioNawfal) October 2, 2024
CNN analysts say Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz struggled in the vice-presidential debate due to over-preparation, failing to respond effectively to JD Vance's attacks.
Source: CNN pic.twitter.com/8ONaazhenQ
I would love to hear what you think, I need to get to bed so that I can say something coherent tomorrow, when things are much clearer,
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