Breaking: Fewer than 50,000 people have enrolled in health plans via ObamaCare website thus far, says WSJ

posted at 5:41 pm on November 11, 2013 by Allahpundit

Add in another 50,000 people or so who’ve signed up on the individual state exchanges and you’ve got roughly 100,000 total enrollees through all of October and 10 days of November. The program’s target for October alone was 494,620. And that figure represents what they thought would be a “slow” month, as the public gradually got up to speed on the need to sign up before December 15th. If you’re looking at the bigger picture, they’re aiming for seven million new enrollees by March 31 of next year. They’re 1.4 percent of the way there with almost 25 percent of the initial enrollment period having already elapsed.

They’re in trouble.

So far, private health plans have received enrollment data for 40,000 to 50,000 users of the federal marketplace, the people familiar with the figures said. The federal marketplace uses an industry-standard format to exchange enrollment information, known as an 834 transmission…

In some cases, insurers have reported duplicated 834s and other data-integrity problems, but the people familiar with the matter said they believed these figures reflected an accurate count of enrollments through late last week…

The initial federal numbers set for release this week are expected to show enrollment only through the end of October, so the figures are expected to be lower. Efforts to clean up the data and reduce duplications could further cull the formal count.

The administration hasn’t said whether it will release demographic data such as ages when it announces the number of enrollees.

Fearless prediction: They’re not going to release the demographic data. The only way to make these numbers look more dismal than they are is if it turns out that many, or even most, of the 100,000 who’ve enrolled are older people or people with preexisting conditions. Which, in fairness to the feds, was always likely to be the case in the first weeks after launching the exchange, even if things had gone swimmingly with the website otherwise. It stands to reason that the people most eager to get coverage are those who’ve been locked out of it or been paying higher premiums in the past. It’s one thing to make that point, though, when you’ve got 500,000 new enrollees on the books and can cite such a robust figure as proof that the “young healthies” are out there and are on their way into the risk pool. It’s another to make that point when you’ve got one-tenth that number, which means a skewed pool and circumstantial evidence that maybe the “young healthies” have now been discouraged from even trying to sign up. In fact, the Journal published a story just a week ago quoting insurers as saying the early enrollees thus far are older than they expected. If, for the reason I just gave, they were already expecting an older, sicker crop among the early enrollees, how much older and sicker must the data they’re seeing be for them to be surprised at the extent of it?

Peter Suderman says it’s time to start thinking about worst-case scenarios:

The potential problems are not confined to the near term either. Very soon, the short-term technical troubles could begin to have meaningful longer-term policy consequences. Insurers must decide what plans to offer and what rates to charge in the first half of next year. If enrollment is low, if the exchanges are still broken, and if the president and his administration are still losing credibility and popularity as a result of the rollout debacle, how will insurers react? By pulling plans from the market? By raising rates?…

This could still be turned around, perhaps even soon. But it’s time to start considering the worst-case scenarios: that the exchanges continue to malfunction, that plan cancellations go into effect, that insurers see the political winds shifting and stop playing nice with the administration, and that significant numbers of people are left stranded without coverage as a result. Rather than reforming the individual market, which was flawed but did work for some people, Obamacare will have destroyed it and left only dysfunction and chaos in its wake.

Yuval Levin said not long ago that you can’t start talking about a “death spiral” until things have actually spiraled — not just higher rates next year, in other words, but higher rates year after year as the cost of maintaining coverage becomes prohibitively expensive for more and more middle class people and they end up dropping it, leaving only older, sicker people in the pool. As Suderman notes, if low enrollment persists into the spring and the 2015 rates are set based on that data, we might have our first full downward turn in the spiral. Exit question: How long before Obama announces some sort of extension of next year’s enrollment deadline? Over/under is Friday.


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Bishop on November 11, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Thankfully I hate honey…

OmahaConservative on November 11, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Honestly, I have no idea…but there was a thread a few weeks ago where he said he’d be back in 10 minutes and never returned. So I made up the reason why he didn’t. :)

22044 on November 11, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Oh! He’s been here more recently than that. But everytime he shows up he gets beaten down so quickly he disappears to lick his wounds, cry in his pillow, or whatever.

Happy Nomad on November 11, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Its tough to get reality on your team.

BobMbx on November 11, 2013 at 6:54 PM

I live in NE, and am next door to IA. I should be getting the finest beef and pork America has to offer…

OmahaConservative on November 11, 2013 at 6:43 PM

That tapping on your shoulder is probably TX with a “beef” about your comments. ;0

Happy Nomad on November 11, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Oh! He’s been here more recently than that. But everytime he shows up he gets beaten down so quickly he disappears to lick his wounds, cry in his pillow, or whatever.

Happy Nomad on November 11, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Riding pole?

OmahaConservative on November 11, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Honey from China is pretty good, well except for the salmonella swimming through it.

Only buy local honey, all the big name stuff is Chinese.

Bishop on November 11, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Okay, so now I have an image of honey bees lined up in the main courtyard of Honey Plant #5 doing morning exercises before going off to work for the collective.

Happy Nomad on November 11, 2013 at 6:58 PM

Didn’t the tainted dog food that killed so many pets come from China several years ago?

OmahaConservative on November 11, 2013 at 7:02 PM

Okay, so now I have an image of honey bees lined up in the main courtyard of Honey Plant #5 doing morning exercises before going off to work for the collective.

Happy Nomad on November 11, 2013 at 6:58 PM

The ones are in the back row making wise-cracks. “Did you see what that communist Queen wants done now, the biatch.”

oldroy on November 11, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Paging libby…it’s been a lot more than 10 minutes since you got your cancellation notice! Try to defend this monstrosity!

22044 on November 11, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Ahahahha, link? Gotta be a link. Linky-link.

Jeddite on November 11, 2013 at 7:09 PM

Paging libby…it’s been a lot more than 10 minutes since you got your cancellation notice! Try to defend this monstrosity!

22044 on November 11, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Nah. Couldn’t be. And besides, insurance companies cancel policies each and every year like clockwork.

oldroy on November 11, 2013 at 7:12 PM

This is further stark evidence of just how out of touch with reality America’s socialists are.

They have no idea how the real world works. Not a clue.

farsighted on November 11, 2013 at 7:19 PM

At the rate of 100,000 enrollees in 40 days, or 2,500 per day, they should be up to a whopping 455,000 by March 31. If they needed 7 million young “invincibles”, they will only reach about 15% of their target. So who will pay the other 85% of the subsidies?

Steve Z on November 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM

oops…math is hard. They will only reach 6.5% of their target!!!

Steve Z on November 11, 2013 at 7:23 PM

Half of those enrolled simply stole the identities of the first 25,000….

viking01 on November 11, 2013 at 7:23 PM

Ahahahha, link? Gotta be a link. Linky-link.

Jeddite on November 11, 2013 at 7:09 PM

Made it up, Jeddite. See my reply to Happy Nomad. :)

Nah. Couldn’t be. And besides, insurance companies cancel policies each and every year like clockwork.

oldroy on November 11, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Very true, oldroy. :)

22044 on November 11, 2013 at 7:27 PM

I wonder on what date the number of new enrollees will exceed the number of people who lost the health care plan they liked but couldn’t keep.

Condsidering the latter number will continue to go up as employer provided plans that are not Obamcare compliant are dropped, it could be awhile.

Of course, our Socialist-In-Chief’s real plan, as opposed to the lies he tells about it all, is to eventually have everyone enrolled in health plans via the Obamacare website, one way or another, whether they like it or not.

farsighted on November 11, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Math is a wonderful thing.

22044 on November 11, 2013 at 7:31 PM

HAHA!

/muntz

Chuck Schick on November 11, 2013 at 7:39 PM

I’ll never sign up…

Ever.

wolly4321 on November 11, 2013 at 7:45 PM

So they were looking to have 7 million on the thing by the end of the year, for payments and such.

That’s about, what was it again? 76k per day? About 530k/week? Something like that.

So 6 weeks in and they aren’t meeting their first week expected totals.

And those people ‘signed up’ may not have been properly processed through the system, may have garbled data, and may or may not actually be on a plan they chose.

The website sucks. The back-end chucks. And the entire thing is untrustworthy, screwed up and unfeasible as a way of doing this because it adds too much cost to a system that is already overburdened because the federal government refuses to pay for procedures in other ‘plans’ in the M&Ms so the cost is shifted to the rest of us. While Obamacare steals money from the M&Ms to finance Obamacare after the first year or two of sweeteners. And the sweeteners have almost run out.

Well if you wanted to convince the American People that the US government is screwed up and that health insurance isn’t worth getting: it has been a grand SUCCESS if that was the goal.

ajacksonian on November 11, 2013 at 7:46 PM

What’s a worst case scenario is people in dire health situations that have lost their docs and coverage and can’t afford the new good apple coverage from our dicktator in chief. They are left to face nature’s course or place their families in debt. On the good side, they won’t have to deal with the death panels and Cruella. Just heard on Beck that once you sign up for zerocare, there’s no getting out of it and going back to the free market for coverage.

Kissmygrits on November 11, 2013 at 7:48 PM

“We The Peeps Voted for Socialism, but We The Peeps Ain’t liking this much”

/LIV’S

Key West Reader on November 11, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Americans need to Embrace the Change. Embrace the Feel Good Syndrome of Subsidizing Millions of Illegal Aliens and Welfare Mommas and Poppa’s. Come on, now.. “Let’s Stay Together”

/Lemme check yo azz*ole on lane 3 please.. Step aside. Leave the sick and the elderly on line 9 please. Come on, Peeps.. All those with gyno issues, step to line 11. Prostate, line 14. Elderly peeps, step through doh 13. Come one peeps! Move it along nah, move it along.

Key West Reader on November 11, 2013 at 7:55 PM

Americans need to Embrace the Change. Embrace the Feel Good Syndrome of Subsidizing Millions of Illegal Aliens and Welfare Mommas and Poppa’s. Come on, now.. “Let’s Stay Together”

/Lemme check yo azz*ole on lane 3 please.. Step aside. Leave the sick and the elderly on line 9 please. Come on, Peeps.. All those with gyno issues, step to line 11. Prostate, line 14. Elderly peeps, step through doh 13. Come one peeps! Move it along nah, move it along.

Key West Reader on November 11, 2013 at 7:55 PM

This is singing Kumbaya while re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

ajacksonian on November 11, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Watching the Project Veritas undercover video on BOR. Navigator suggests fraud and lying on insurance applications. Shocker. These navigators must have worked for ACORN in the past.

Philly on November 11, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Okay, so now I have an image of honey bees lined up in the main courtyard of Honey Plant #5 doing morning exercises before going off to work for the collective.
 
Happy Nomad on November 11, 2013 at 6:58 PM

 
Unfortunately that’s not too far off base. Ship them to the orchards on tractor trailer trucks, feed them corn syrup, pump chemicals on them to keep them alive to polinate, load them back up, ship them to the next orchard, practice little to no maintenance against disease or pests at all, and when they die just replace them and load the new ones on the truck.
 
And yeah, always buy local honey.* Stop at a mom and pop gas station and grab the mason jar with the misspelled label stuck-on with packing tape that tells the actual address of the garage where the guy poured it up. That’s the one you want.
 
*A very famous international destination nearby had some tests run on the honey they were selling and it was discovered that the $10+ jars were sugar water.

rogerb on November 11, 2013 at 8:09 PM

How long before Obama announces some sort of extension of next year’s enrollment deadline? Over/under is Friday.

I’m taking the under.

What’s the point if the Big News gets lost in the Friday night dump?

Bruno Strozek on November 11, 2013 at 8:12 PM

What’s the point if the Big News gets lost in the Friday night dump?

Bruno Strozek on November 11, 2013 at 8:12 PM

Iran testing a nuclear device.

ajacksonian on November 11, 2013 at 8:15 PM

There’s more than one way to start a financial crisis.

SomeCallMeJohn on November 11, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Obamacare Will Be Repealed Well In Advance Of The 2104 Elections

May they send this Frankenstein Legislation back to Hell where it belongs… and be certain it takes the IPAB with it.

thatsafactjack on November 11, 2013 at 8:21 PM

Is that blood in the water I see?

Gee, I hope so…

CPT. Charles on November 11, 2013 at 8:24 PM

Remember: Ted Cruz was offering a way for Obama to step away from all of this.

ajacksonian on November 11, 2013 at 8:28 PM

The WP is reporting that the Obama administration will also count as an enrollee someone who has not actually paid for a policy but has one sitting in their SHOPPING CART!

Borgcube on November 11, 2013 at 8:31 PM

Maternity care for welfare, single “moms”…
Substance abuse care for youths living with their grandmas…

Who are all these uninsured who need to be helped?

Meanwhile, people in high risk pools are losing their care, and older persons who had their own plans are being kicked off their plans and thrown into the Exchanges.

All by design!

As if Enron had planned the system.

Dhuka on November 11, 2013 at 8:33 PM

It will count people who have purchased a plan as well as those who have a plan sitting in their online shopping cart but have not yet paid.

sentinelrules on November 11, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Like my abandoned shopping carts at a half-dozen websites when I go shopping around for good prices on woodworking equipment?

That is sheer and utter desperation.

No one, in their right mind mind or even in a deranged state of mind would count that. Mind you the insurance companies will also have totals of actual sales… and when those leak their way out, and you know they will, then there will be a popcorn popping festival.

ajacksonian on November 11, 2013 at 8:41 PM

It will count people who have purchased a plan as well as those who have a plan sitting in their online shopping cart but have not yet paid.

sentinelrules on November 11, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Let’s see…

1. Email 5,000 Acorn activists
2. Log in, an apply
3. Eureka!!!

faraway on November 11, 2013 at 8:43 PM

If you call my fraud, I can raise you some more fraud.

faraway on November 11, 2013 at 8:43 PM

Yes Doctor let me schedule my procedure with my insurance card which reads, my plan is in my shopping cart. Think that will fly??

txmomof6 on November 11, 2013 at 8:43 PM

It will count people who have purchased a plan as well as those who have a plan sitting in their online shopping cart but have not yet paid.

sentinelrules on November 11, 2013 at 8:37 PM

The Navigators are now referred to as Imagineers.

faraway on November 11, 2013 at 8:47 PM

Mesquite honey,,,Mmm Mmmm good.

Of course they are 1/2 africanized and can kill you.

Pecan hives are good too.

Damned killers bees are nasty. They chase you forever. Too small to shoot.

One attack was one to many. Stung over 30 times.

wolly4321 on November 11, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Watching the Project Veritas undercover video on BOR. Navigator suggests fraud and lying on insurance applications. Shocker. These navigators must have worked for ACORN in the past.

Philly on November 11, 2013 at 8:05 PM

But of course; this will be wholly peopled with ACORN, Occupy, and La Raza types.

Midas on November 11, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Watching the Project Veritas undercover video on BOR. Navigator suggests fraud and lying on insurance applications. Shocker. These navigators must have worked for ACORN in the past.

Philly on November 11, 2013 at 8:05 PM

But of course; this will be wholly peopled with ACORN, Occupy, and La Raza types.

Midas on November 11, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Don’t forget the SEIU knuckledraggers.

slickwillie2001 on November 11, 2013 at 9:57 PM

wolly4321 on November 11, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Hope you are feeling better.

bw222 on November 11, 2013 at 10:00 PM

May this Obamacare be the catalyst that finally breaks the socialist camel’s back.

D-fusit on November 11, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Ok.

I counted from 1 to 50,000. Took me a while. When you do it that way it seems like a lot.

SparkPlug on November 11, 2013 at 10:17 PM

“grab the mason jar with the misspelled label stuck-on”

rogerb on November 11, 2013 at 8:09 PM

LMAO. The labels on my first twenty bottles had a misspelling. I noticed it beforehand but said screw it. They were already printed and who’s going to notice. Nineteen did.

They keep coming back for more, though.

Buy strained, not filtered honey.

Dusty on November 11, 2013 at 10:22 PM

If schadenfreude had calories, I’d be sitting in my bed, covered with only a bedsheet, so morbidly obese that the firefighters would have to cut me out of my bedroom through a wall.

My name is Grace, and I have a schadenfreude binge disorder.

Hey, does Obamacare cover that?

Grace_is_sufficient on November 11, 2013 at 6:27 PM

ROTFLMFAO!

So
Stealing
That

katy the mean old lady on November 11, 2013 at 10:32 PM

50,000 enrollees v. how many policy cancellation letters?

What we need is a government program to provide low cost health-care insurance to people who don’t have, or can’t afford, currently available policies….Oh, wait….isn’t that what the PPACA was for?

Another Drew on November 11, 2013 at 11:22 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_u7VGiMO0U

katy the mean old lady on November 11, 2013 at 11:27 PM

Obama lied, healthcare died.

profitsbeard on November 11, 2013 at 11:32 PM

The Navigators are now referred to as Imagineers.

faraway on November 11, 2013 at 8:47 PM

Or in Obama’s case, Imaginears.

profitsbeard on November 11, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Don’t forget the administration still has Bill Clinton’s favorite option of changing definitions without telling people what was done.

Wait until they announce the enrollment numbers in a few days and see what their reaction is if someone is smart enough to ask “what exactly is an enrollment?” 10 to 1 they’ve defined it as “someone who is thinking about maybe signing up sometime in the indeterminate future.”

Fred 2 on November 11, 2013 at 11:45 PM

The beatings will continue until morale improves…

shorebird on November 12, 2013 at 1:06 AM

The secret key number isn’t 7 million but 2.7 million, the number of healthy young enrollees even Obama estimated they MUST have to pay for the rest.

The numbers they will claim will include many, or even most, who have created an account and gone through the plan selection process far enough to get a firm quote, but haven’t actually enrolled or paid. It’s as if eBay counted everyone watching an item as a bidder.

The website interface is only one of the problems, not an insignificant one since it would be the preferred tool of the needed young suckers, but the rest of the computer system is shaky at best, too. The transmission of applicant info to the insurers is botched, and any higher levels of requests will crash the whole system. And security is far from meeting the legally required levels, despite the false declarations to the contrary.

We always knew it would be a disaster, but most of us thought it would take a while to become obvious to everyone. On that at least, ObamaCare is ahead of schedule.

Adjoran on November 12, 2013 at 1:12 AM

Why do you think insurers are demanding full payments for under-payment and the ability to retain any overpayment? Because they see the writing on the wall about where this is heading (not enough people paying for those using the service).

But, I have no tears for the insurers. They got happily in bed with Obama thinking they were going to have a captive audience. Whatever happens to them they deserve it.

ptcamn on November 12, 2013 at 2:37 AM

Schumer: Chicken Slaughtered, Raised In China Could Pose Major Risk

So, they’re slaughtering chickens in China and then raising them? That’s both amazing and really kind of creepy. Somehow it doesn’t seem fair to eat them after they’ve already come back once before. What if they do it again?

trigon on November 12, 2013 at 3:14 AM

I just went to the Aston Martin website and did the “build your own” for a nice looking Vanquish.

So given the new standards for having purchased something – I am now the proud owner of an Aston Martin.

Perhaps I shouldn’t mention it; they’ll probably try to tax me on it.

RDuke on November 12, 2013 at 3:18 AM

So this is it. We’re finally on the brink of universal healthcare.

It’s strange, I never realized the universe was so small.

RINO in Name Only on November 12, 2013 at 5:23 AM

Obama is literally destroying the country.
He really needs to be removed from office before he does more damage.

justltl on November 12, 2013 at 7:49 AM

Coca-Cola royally messed up with New Coke and quickly realized their mistake and reverted to OLD Coke. if only our Federal Government had the same amount of common sense. I think we should all admit that we need some health care reform. The fact that nearly everyone’s coverage is linked to their employment is ridiculous. I have for most of life had to buy my insurance on the open market. I am one of those five percent. Let us start with tort reform and allowing people to buy insurance across state lines. But then we will alway have the idiots/dolts who can afford health insurance but will not purchase health insurance ………… Perhaps a gun should be held to their head. And, then we will always have some who really can not afford health insurance.

SC.Charlie on November 12, 2013 at 7:54 AM

Obama is literally destroying the country.
He really needs to be removed from office before he does more damage. – justltl on November 12, 2013 at 7:49 AM

I agree. However, no one in Washington has the gall to seriously suggest this option. The Republicans could bring up articles for impeachment in the House, but the Senate is controlled by Democrats. They will not convict Obama of gross malfeasance in office, which should be the charge.

SC.Charlie on November 12, 2013 at 7:58 AM

What we don’t need is the Federal Government totally controlling nearly up to 1/5 of the economy. We need smaller big government and more private enterprise or we will all end up being government worker bees, drones.

SC.Charlie on November 12, 2013 at 8:01 AM

When the Obama administration releases health law enrollment figures later this week, though, it will use a more expansive definition.

It will count people who have purchased a plan as well as those who have a plan sitting in their online shopping cart but have not yet paid.

sentinelrules on November 11, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Because if the Lousiana Wal-Mart Snap/EBT crisis of 2013 taught us anything it is that those on government assistance would never ever leave a shopping cart full of goodies in the aisle and not actually check out.

weaselyone on November 12, 2013 at 8:04 AM

If this were a “Product Launch” in the Real World, heads would be rolling.

kingsjester on November 12, 2013 at 8:38 AM

And how many of those 500,000 have signed up for Medicaid???…probably 80%…

PatriotRider on November 12, 2013 at 8:50 AM

rogerb on November 11, 2013 at 8:09 PM

Nice horror story. But my version of local is buying honey from a female cousin who went to high school with me, and her and her husband owns a farm near my mom and dads, and sell it at their local Octoberfest craft festival. I’ll take my local version of honey over any others.

dominigan on November 12, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Hopefully the Republican Party will not try to fix this monstrosity. If they do then you know that they just want to control the ACA if they ever get back power. The Democrats could care less if you lost your policy. They are worried about the next election. I could care less about any Obama voter who was canceled.

alanstern on November 12, 2013 at 11:53 AM

rogerb on November 11, 2013 at 8:09 PM

 
Nice horror story. But my version of local is buying honey from a female cousin who went to high school with me, and her and her husband owns a farm near my mom and dads, and sell it at their local Octoberfest craft festival. I’ll take my local version of honey over any others.
 
dominigan on November 12, 2013 at 9:47 AM

 
Folks usually do okay so long as they avoid store brands (I think Bishop mentioned that earlier). I was really surprised that the place selling sugar water was doing it, though. They have apiaries as part of their tourist draw. It was very disappointing to learn it was just for show.
 
I try to buy a jar from everywhere I go. The best I ever had was from Alabama. They were in the middle of miles and miles of nothing but cotton. Light in taste and color and like none I’ve had before or since.
 
That jar lasted maybe a week. I couldn’t keep my fingers out of it.

rogerb on November 12, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Barry-boy’s/Pelosi’s/Reid’s argument for the “affordable care act” was that 30 million people were without insurance, and Obamacare would end that “unfairness”.

The whacked-out web site alone [never mind whatever other costs there've been] has so far cost taxpayers $634 million.

The total population of the country is ~ 330 million. Instead of spending $634 million on that web site, each and every man, woman, and child in the country could have been flat out handed $2 million cash – more than enough to pay all their medical expenses for the rest of their lives – and the lives of their progeny. And their mortgages, and food and toys for the dog and cat as well. AND our privacy would remained private.

Why in bloody he** was this fiasco allowed to ever even start, let alone get to this point?!

GGMac on November 12, 2013 at 12:23 PM

GGMac on November 12, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Applause.

ElectricPhase on November 12, 2013 at 12:39 PM

The whacked-out web site alone [never mind whatever other costs there've been] has so far cost taxpayers $634 million.

The total population of the country is ~ 330 million. Instead of spending $634 million on that web site, each and every man, woman, and child in the country could have been flat out handed $2 million cash – more than enough to pay all their medical expenses for the rest of their lives – and the lives of their progeny. And their mortgages, and food and toys for the dog and cat as well. AND our privacy would remained private.

GGMac on November 12, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Math problem. They’ve only spent about $2 per person in this country on the web site. To give everyone $2 million would cost $660 trillion.

Of course, the costs of developing the web site are nothing compared to what the costs of the subsidies for the health insurance of the people who actually sign up will be.

J.S.K. on November 12, 2013 at 1:14 PM

When they originally projected getting 7 million people to sign up on the exchanges, was that 7 million previously uninsured people, or was that 7 million people counting both the previously insured and the previously uninsured? I suspect the former.

Furthermore, I would not be surprised if most of the people who have enrolled in health plans on the web site so far were previously insured people whose policies have recently been cancelled (or replaced with a jacked-up policy). After all, those people were the ones who previously were motivated enough to buy health insurance on their own. Since it was important to them to have health insurance before, they would be much more motivated to buy it now than someone who didn’t have health insurance before would be.

J.S.K. on November 12, 2013 at 1:17 PM

@ J.S.K. at 1:14 PM…

Yeaaaaaaah. I’ve never liked math anyway, but attempting anything involving numbers – without having had any coffee – is a huge mistake! May be no small amount of wishful thinking was involved, as well.

Thanks for being polite!

GGMac on November 12, 2013 at 1:19 PM

GGMac on November 12, 2013 at 12:23 PM

 
Math problem. They’ve only spent about $2 per person in this country on the web site. To give everyone $2 million would cost $660 trillion.
 
J.S.K. on November 12, 2013 at 1:14 PM

 
Interestingly, they could cover every single person in the US with catastrophic coverage for $180/month. Since catastrophic occurrences are very rare, that would remove the major complaint (free riders) that Obamacare was based on.
 
And it just so happens that $180/month/person is almost exactly what they’ve spent annually on recurring “stimulus” spending since 2009, and why Obama/Reid won’t pass a budget. We’re at ~$5 trillion in stimulus spending now, btw.
 
Obamacare claims health as its vessel, but it’s about something different.

rogerb on November 12, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Obamacare Bureaucracy’s Definition of ‘Enroll’ Not the Same as the White House’s Definition of ‘Enroll.’

“So according to CMS, a person is not enrolled until they have paid. The health insurance industry also does not count someone as enrolled until they pay. The Obama White House, though, will report people who have dropped a healthcare plan into their exchange shopping cart, but not paid, as also enrolled.

And the WH is still not being honest with the American people…

…surprised?

H/T Instapundit

Athos on November 12, 2013 at 2:47 PM

They could have enrolled the 30 million uninsured people on Medicaid.
Period.
Problem solved.

justltl on November 12, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Here, let me repeat that :

They – could – have – enrolled – those – 30 – million – people – on – Medicaid.

justltl on November 12, 2013 at 6:26 PM

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