“Final question, and this is another concern people have, look, when you work, you get more out of it than money. You get self-esteem, you get social interaction. It does a lot of things, and some people are concerned that with your, in effect, 12,000 a year handout that your de-linking income from actually earning a living,” Wallace said.

“Well I’m Asian, so you know I love to work,” Yang replied. “You have to be a little bit broader about how you think about work. My wife is at home with our two young boys, one of whom has autism. What is the market value of her work at right now? At zero, and we know that’s the opposite the truth. We know the work she’s doing is among the most challenging and vital work in our society. So we need to think bigger about what we mean by work.