“This isn’t opinion, it isn’t subjective, you can stack their words up against words they’ve used in the past and they just lie and they do it openly and if they would like to get angry about that, we’d be glad to run clips all day tomorrow showing their lies. But the same thing with Rudy Giuliani. I was watching some hosts interview Giuliani and he was saying things that were objectively false. I sat there wondering ‘okay well if you’ve got to let this guy on despite the fact that he’s going to lie, why don’t you interrupt him and call out on every lie as they’re moving forward? I don’t understand. That’s not even-handed journalism. That’s just allowing a propagandist to come on and tell knowable lies.”