SULLIVAN: They’re playing around with money. They’re not actually creating goods.

QUICK: There are some terrible things that happened, but yes the finance comes to a point where if you’re a company and you want to hire people, you have to go to Wall Street to make sure you can get the loan to do it.

SULLIVAN: Sure, but the person whom Ayn Rand would presumably support would be the businessman not the financier.

QUICK: Sure, but if you’re asking what corporate leaders are thinking, yes, they have a lot of clout because they’re the ones who are hiring. We’re at a terrible situation where you’ve got nine percent unemployment.