At a campaign rally Wednesday, Donald Trump made the claim that Barack Obama was the founder of ISIS, and that Hillary Clinton was the co-founder. The statement is not true, and misses the opportunity to actually go on offense over a failed, miserable foreign policy the two shared in the Middle East.
Thursday morning, Hugh Hewitt had Donald Trump on as a guest, and gave him every opportunity to walk it back and clarify his remarks.
HH: I’ve got two more questions. Last night, you said the President was the founder of ISIS. I know what you meant. You meant that he created the vacuum, he lost the peace.
DT: No, I meant he’s the founder of ISIS. I do. He was the most valuable player. I give him the most valuable player award. I give her, too, by the way, Hillary Clinton.
HH: But he’s not sympathetic to them. He hates them. He’s trying to kill them.
DT: I don’t care. He was the founder. His, the way he got out of Iraq was that that was the founding of ISIS, okay?
HH: Well, that, you know, I have a saying, Donald Trump, the mnemonic device I use is Every Liberal Really Seems So, So Sad. E is for Egypt, L is for Libya, S is for Syria, R is for Russia reset. They screwed everything up. You don’t get any argument from me. But by using the term founder, they’re hitting with you on this again. Mistake?
DT: No, it’s no mistake. Everyone’s liking it. I think they’re liking it. I give him the most valuable player award. And I give it to him, and I give it to, I gave the co-founder to Hillary. I don’t know if you heard that.
HH: I did. I did. I played it.
DT: I gave her the co-founder.
HH: I know what you’re arguing…
DT: You’re not, and let me ask you, do you not like that?
HH: I don’t. I think I would say they created, they lost the peace. They created the Libyan vacuum, they created the vacuum into which ISIS came, but they didn’t create ISIS. That’s what I would say.
DT: Well, I disagree.
HH: All right, that’s okay.
DT: I mean, with his bad policies, that’s why ISIS came about.
DT: If he would have done things properly, you wouldn’t have had ISIS.
HH: That’s true.
DT: Therefore, he was the founder of ISIS.
HH: And that’s, I’d just use different language to communicate it, but let me close with this, because I know I’m keeping you long, and Hope’s going to kill me.
DT: But they wouldn’t talk about your language, and they do talk about my language, right?
HH: Well, good point. Good point
Donald not only did not board the life raft Hugh threw him, he deflated it out of spite. He went on several other media outlets throughout the day and held firm on his assertion.
This morning, the world was greeting with the following tweet from Donald Trump.
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago
Ratings challenged @CNN reports so seriously that I call President Obama (and Clinton) “the founder” of ISIS, & MVP. THEY DON’T GET SARCASM?
Donald Trump is like Minnesota weather – if you don’t like it the way it is, just wait an hour and it’ll change completely. As for the sarcasm, sarcasm means saying the opposite thing. So if Mr. Trump was being sarcastic, does that mean he actually is praising Obama and Hillary’s role regarding ISIS?
As Inigo Montoya said in The Princess Bride, “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”