Banning large sodas is legal and smart
The industry stoked the fires of public discontent with its campaign against the “inconsistencies” in the soda ban. Why doesn’t the ban apply to milky drinks, why can 7-Eleven sell large sugary drinks, and why not ban refills? Justice Milton Tingling Jr. bought both industry arguments: It won’t work and it is inconsistent. He went so far as to call the ban “fraught with arbitrary and capricious consequences” and filled with loopholes. Again, we find a double standard.
Bloomberg did what every other politician does: balance public health and safety with realpolitik. Consider one of the judge’s major arguments: balancing public health and economic considerations is “impermissible.” This judicial reasoning makes no sense. If policy makers could not balance economic consequences, virtually every law in America would be flawed. There is another huge problem with this argument. It assumes that unless public health does everything, it can do nothing. The whole art of politics is compromise. The mayor gets a lot of what he seeks to fight obesity, but not everything.









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I didn’t waste my time reading the rest once I’d absorbed the above.
Drained Brain on March 14, 2013 at 9:24 PM
Legal…hmmm one judge disagrees. Smart? When you can buy two if you want? I don’t think you understand the definition of smart. FY nannyman.
CW on March 14, 2013 at 9:25 PM
Sounds like an admission that trying to micromanage the economy is inherently “fraught with arbitrary and capricious consequences”.
sadarj on March 14, 2013 at 9:28 PM
A government that can enact behavioral laws that you agree with, also has the ability to enact law that gore your ox.
antipc on March 14, 2013 at 9:31 PM
Which is worse? Large sodas or communists?
Too hard? How about larges sodas or corrupt lying politicans? I guess that’s one and the same, tho.
JellyToast on March 14, 2013 at 9:32 PM
Apply the ban to beer and end all this silliness already. That will stop it dead.
Ronnie on March 14, 2013 at 9:36 PM
Solves nothing while the large cup is still around. Ban large cups too.
rukiddingme on March 14, 2013 at 9:40 PM
Why should “fighting obesity” be part of the mayoral role?
YiZhangZhe on March 14, 2013 at 9:41 PM
Wrong!!! The judge also based his decision on the historical role of a Hept of hesalth. Going back 300 years the goal was to stop the spread of comminicable disease and disease caused by public conditions like polluted water systems. Type 2 diabetes is a disease caused by behavior and not by communicable bacteria or virus and not by public conditions.The Dept of Health went way beyond its present or historical role. The judge also said any such ban must be the result of the democratic process by the elected legislature. in this case the NYC Council. The judge voided this rule on so many levels that it will arrive at the appellate division already dead.
xkaydet65 on March 14, 2013 at 9:48 PM
Yet you can still buy two smaller sodas and have the same amount of liquid.
Smart Power at the city level.
Bishop on March 14, 2013 at 9:53 PM
Control is a powerful drug to those who wish to be relevant.
antipc on March 14, 2013 at 9:53 PM
ShainS on March 14, 2013 at 9:59 PM
If the mayor plans on fighting obesity, when does the “Run 1 Mile Per Day” ordinance take effect?
Bishop on March 14, 2013 at 10:01 PM
Maybe that’s the problem.
FlareCorran on March 14, 2013 at 10:35 PM
The art of politics should be banned for fraudulent marketing. It’s actually the manufacture of a kind of sausage which is toxic to the body (politic) and a known carcinogen.
It’s worse than Alar!
Dusty on March 14, 2013 at 10:35 PM
Hmmmm, funny that the judge doesn’t agree with this guy.
Cindy Munford on March 14, 2013 at 10:39 PM
Well, a large soda doesn’t still hang around your neck like an albatross for two to four years if you find the flavor distasteful after buying it and whoever sold it to you will probably give you your money back if you take it back and complain.
Dusty on March 14, 2013 at 10:53 PM
Cool.
Let’s see what else we can ban.
Frankly …. it is “Soda Discrimination” … just because a soda happens to have more sugar than a diet soda (which has its own problems!) we ban it?
That’s raaaccciiiiiissssssssttttttt.
Now I have to go order a “Bloomberg” of Sweet Tea. Not that I’m going to drink it. But because I can.
ProfShadow on March 14, 2013 at 10:59 PM
How soon can we expect the FDA to rule sugar is a controlled substance?
BobMbx on March 14, 2013 at 11:23 PM
I won’t be satisfied unless it is at least 10 miles per day. Being a runner that works for me w/o having any consequences to me.
chemman on March 15, 2013 at 1:09 AM
Ban large egos.
profitsbeard on March 15, 2013 at 1:25 AM
Let’s see where this can go…
Banning large
sodassteaks is legal and smart.Banning large
sodassandwiches is legal and smart.Banning large
sodasbread loaves is legal and smart.Banning large
sodasfrench fries is legal and smart.Banning large
sodasice cream cones is legal and smart…And so on and so forth. It’s all for your own good, ya’know.
If you accept the premise the rest follows. Big Brother is watching out for you. Big Brother is taking care of you. Big Brother only wants what is best for you. Pay attention to Big Brother and do as he says, for your own good, or else.
farsighted on March 15, 2013 at 7:51 AM
But this kind of tenuous logic is exactly the same as the judges use for outcomes that liberals love, too. We have given judges too much leeway for overriding the people and their representatives. Based on the theory that everything can boil down to some simple equation of legal theory and almost nothing is a matter of discretion and the ability to (in the proper sense)discriminate.
I think the soda ban is as stupid as anybody else. I make fun of it when I can. But at least Bloomberg is elected by the people and his excesses can be reined in by the next mayor, if the people of NYC care enough.
Frankly, I believe there ought to be more local lib utopias to visit and be glad you don’t live there.
Axeman on March 15, 2013 at 8:17 AM
Banning
large sodas“super size me” is legal and smart.Banning
large sodasextra cheese on pizza is legal and smart.Banning
large sodasextra large pizzas is legal and smart.Banning
large sodasdouble cheeseburgers is legal and smart…farsighted on March 15, 2013 at 8:25 AM
Ban ambulance chasing and pettifoggery and see how quickly the Bar Association and shysters in general develop a distaste for regulation.
viking01 on March 15, 2013 at 8:25 AM
Banning fast cars – which kill WAY more people than soda – must be even more legal and more smart, right?
Washington Nearsider on March 15, 2013 at 8:50 AM
Think of how many lives could be saved if we reduced the speed limit to 20 mph and aggressively enforced it! Tens of thousands of lives could be saved! Many of them children!
farsighted on March 15, 2013 at 9:03 AM
it was designed to fail imo…just a little “nudge”
NY Conservative on March 15, 2013 at 9:08 AM
I didn’t waste my time reading the rest once I’d absorbed the above.
Drained Brain on March 14, 2013 at 9:24 PM
Agreed. A socialist ‘law’ professor backing a socialist nanny.
TerryW on March 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM