The best choice for pope? A nun
More than any other group in the church, the sisters have been at the heart of its work on behalf of compassion and justice. Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times made this point as powerfully as anyone in a 2010 column. “In my travels around the world, I encounter two Catholic Churches,” he wrote. “One is the rigid all-male Vatican hierarchy that seems out of touch. . . . Yet there’s another Catholic Church as well, one I admire intensely. This is the grass-roots Catholic Church that does far more good in the world than it ever gets credit for. This is the church that supports extraordinary aid organizations like Catholic Relief Services and Caritas, saving lives every day, and that operates superb schools that provide needy children an escalator out of poverty.” …
There are certainly bishops and cardinals who have done this sort of godly work and many more who have supported it. But those who have devoted their lives to climbing the church’s career ladder tend not to be like that nun in the jeep in Swaziland. What a message the cardinals would send about the church’s priorities if they made such a woman pope.









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Epic fail.
thebrokenrattle on February 16, 2013 at 10:31 AM
EJ Dionne, you need to stop hitting the crack pipe quite so hard…
JohnGalt23 on February 16, 2013 at 10:33 AM
Why not an atheist lesbian nun who is a practicing Joo?
Blake on February 16, 2013 at 10:34 AM
Had one. Didn’t work out well. (Pope Joan).
OldEnglish on February 16, 2013 at 10:34 AM
She would then be a Pope-ette, or Popalina.
I’ll run now before the womenses show up.
Bishop on February 16, 2013 at 10:35 AM
Is that what Obama calls it? Ewww…
abobo on February 16, 2013 at 10:36 AM
I was really humbled by visiting Rome and not only the Vatican but a tour of Holy Basilicas through the region. I remember enormous St. Paul’s and the mosaics of Popes throughout the century along the roof in chronological order from Peter to Benedict and smiled there’s always some big mouth of the day who thinks he or she is going to change the Catholic Church, because their mouth is so big.
Marcus on February 16, 2013 at 10:36 AM
centuries
Marcus on February 16, 2013 at 10:38 AM
How about Rev Jim Wallis?
mjbrooks3 on February 16, 2013 at 10:39 AM
I’m not a Catholic, but doesn’t one have to be a priest in order to be a bishop? And the priesthood is only open to men.
rbj on February 16, 2013 at 10:40 AM
I’m sure I am in a minority but there is nothing more pathetic than a feminist guy. But then I don’t think E.J. qualifies as a guy in my world.
Cindy Munford on February 16, 2013 at 10:40 AM
It’s the same Church, you dipwad.
Kensington on February 16, 2013 at 10:40 AM
Amazing, huh? I did all of that and also the Scavi Tour of the catacombs under St. Peter’s Basilica last fall. Even as a mildly religious man I was pretty much jaw-dropped the entire time; I filled an 8-gig SD card with photos it was so magnificent.
Bishop on February 16, 2013 at 10:41 AM
Evidently, the best choice for a WaPo opinion writer is a moron.
besser tot als rot on February 16, 2013 at 10:43 AM
You know why that is? Because 99 out of 100 times it’s not even sincere. It’s just a passive tactic betas use to try and get laid because they aren’t man enough to pursue women directly.
Kensington on February 16, 2013 at 10:43 AM
See, I know that Catholics come in all stripes, and I want to respect E.J.’s devotion to his faith, but he doesn’t even understand the most fundamental aspects of its structure.
He’s too old to be this dim and foolish.
Kensington on February 16, 2013 at 10:46 AM
The Husband and I vote for Popalina.
Cindy Munford on February 16, 2013 at 10:46 AM
Good luck with that. I’m sure a lot of women in sensible shoes fall for it.
Cindy Munford on February 16, 2013 at 10:47 AM
Oh Good Lord, (get it?) that should have been
my computer is experiencing some nostalgia.
Cindy Munford on February 16, 2013 at 10:49 AM
Normally they are Cardinals not bishops but I think any Catholic male could be pope.
CW on February 16, 2013 at 10:52 AM
I refuse to read E.J. Dionne articles. Is the sheman calling for the one of the Nuns on the Bus to be the next anti-Pope?
blammm on February 16, 2013 at 10:54 AM
Actually, no. The Church generally picks from priests (and therefore men), but the decision process can be driven by the Spirit, so they were careful to leave themselves some wriggle room should that ever happen.
There’s nothing that says they can’t pick Obama. Or Nancy Pelosi, because she’s been such a good, upstanding Catholic.
Nethicus on February 16, 2013 at 10:54 AM
Prepare to see this ad nauseam in the run up to the papal election.
Stuck-up liberal writers who are nominally Catholic but don’t like following all those pesky rules, and who believe that the ideal solution is to have the Church change to fit their lifestyle.
KingGold on February 16, 2013 at 10:55 AM
You can be Amish and still be a Bishop, I’m a perfect example.
Bishop on February 16, 2013 at 10:56 AM
E.J. always reminded me of a skinnier and less manly version of Barney Frank.
JimLennon on February 16, 2013 at 10:58 AM
The best choice for News Reporter? A chia pet.
G. Charles on February 16, 2013 at 10:59 AM
Sorry libs …
In the Catholic Church, women cannot be validly ordained, so, women are not eligible for the papacy.
Pork-Chop on February 16, 2013 at 11:00 AM
You left out “[black] African”, you racist!!!/sarc
andycanuck on February 16, 2013 at 11:00 AM
I do see the resemblance.
Cindy Munford on February 16, 2013 at 11:01 AM
He knows nothing about the Catholic church. Everyone now knows that he is a pretentious, fool.
Vince on February 16, 2013 at 11:01 AM
Maybe the church will have a female pope when Islam starts treating women like human beings.
RadClown on February 16, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Yawn. Color me unsurprised. The morning I heard this news, I knew we Catholics were in for this kind of cr*p from now until the end of the Conclave and — depending on which man is elevated to Pope — beyond.
Yes. But like liberals in politics, liberal Catholics have a vision: they get into power and ruthlessly do away with all the stuff they don’t like while mercilessly enforcing the rules they like and create. So the liberals will hope for a “liberal” Pope (or, in this case, a nun…) who’ll come in and issue edicts like their beloved Obama. Do away with the Latin mass, approve gay marriage, make abortion and contraception okay and, of course, let women be priests. And the Catholics who don’t like or agree with this stuff? We’ll be tossed aside, marginalized, told to “deal with it.” And, much like the schism going on in the Episcopalian church, any congregations that attempt to break away to hold on to orthodox Catholicism will be attacked, sued, bullied by the hierarchy.
I have often discussed this with my friends, one of whom despises Benedict and Catholicism in general: when I (who was raised WELS Lutheran) decided I no longer agreed with that denomination’s doctrines, I left. I bear no ill will or animosity towards my former church. I simply decided the intellectually honest thing to do was leave (and, for a time, not be particularly religious).
Could I have stayed and started trouble? Yes. I could have been a rebel, demanding changes to the “outdated” doctrines of the church, throwing a fit that I couldn’t be a minister or even vote as part of the parish council. But why? Even when I was liberal, I valued the notion that people had a right to worship as they saw fit…even if I didn’t particularly like or agree with it. It took my several years to find a place and I held many prejudices against Catholicism…until I understood what it was about. Even then, I didn’t become Catholic to ruffle feathers or “change” it. I just wasn’t anything.
The next Pope, if I had to put money on it, will likely be from Africa. My second and third choices are Latin America and Asia, respectively. I, personally, would love a Pope from Africa. If nothing else, to see American liberals lose their minds. The Catholic Church is flourishing, and orthodox, in Africa. Nothing would rattle their PC cages more than someone who defies their stereotypes of Catholics.
I highly doubt we’ll ever see an American Pope. However, if it happens (and it’s not impossible, just very unlikely), I don’t believe it will be Cardinal Dolan of New York (although, as he was my former Archbishop in Milwaukee, I have a fondness for him). It would likely be Cardinal Burke (currently working at the Vatican, but was from Wisconsin) or Cardinal O’Malley of Boston.
One thing I’ll definitely bet money on is that there will never be a woman (nun or otherwise) as a legitimate Pope.
englishqueen01 on February 16, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Regarding the official requirements, one must be a) male, b) baptized Catholic. That’s it, “officially.”
A layman could be elected pope, as was done at least once (in the 1200′s). A married man could be elected as well.
Today only those in the college of cardinals are considered.
G. Charles on February 16, 2013 at 11:07 AM
Why Can’t Women Be Priests?
http://catholicism.about.com/od/beliefsteachings/f/Women_Priests.htm
There will never be a female Catholic Priest or Pope.
Pork-Chop on February 16, 2013 at 11:09 AM
FYi
CW on February 16, 2013 at 11:10 AM
Heh.
BallisticBob on February 16, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Always easier to attack those that don’t fight back. If EJ even came close to being a man just maybe he’d go after radical muslims.
CW on February 16, 2013 at 11:12 AM
a black transgender pope is what is needed!
-libs
portlandon on February 16, 2013 at 11:13 AM
Let me put it in the nicest way possible. And I ain’t Catholic, and neither do I believe in their doctrines. Eff off, prog. Keep your effing trap shut regarding religion, something you know nothing about.
tommy71 on February 16, 2013 at 11:15 AM
It must be an awful thing to be a self-loathing effeminate male journalist.
BKeyser on February 16, 2013 at 11:16 AM
You’re spot-on all the way through your analysis. The energy of the Church is in Africa and South America now. In fact, I fully expect that we’ll see missionary efforts directed back to Europe.
As an aside, going from WELS to Catholic must have been an interesting journey. I went to a Catholic high school in Wisconsin and as part of an ecumenism class, I attended a WELS service. I got the distinct impression from the pastor that he wasn’t especially fond of the Church, to put it mildly.
Mr. D on February 16, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Beat me to it.
What gets me about the whole Pope Joan story, was how she was found out: A child just drops out of her when getting on a horse. She is then tied to a horse’s tail (what? did they not have any rope in the 1300s?) and then buried with a clearly marked headstone.
That’s the jest of the first recorded written account about her. Others have ADDED to her story, but that doesn’t count in my book.
This is bad story telling at it’s worse. Ok, she was clearly pregnant. Who was having sex with her? Was he ever found out? Did she know she was pregnant when trying to get on a horse? Did she go into labor and decide out of the blue to get on a horse for no good reason? What happen to the baby/child? Did he/she live? Where’s the headstone?
I’m not Catholic, so I have nothing to gain from blowing a hole into this story. Until I get more empirical data that she existed, I just don’t buy this beyond a simple story blown completely out of proption.
BigGator5 on February 16, 2013 at 11:23 AM
What an idiot. I suspect he really wants Lady Gaga. For the outfits.
trigon on February 16, 2013 at 11:26 AM
I wholeheartedly agree, since the modern Catholic Church does nothing but concern itself with how it can best project its Progressive White Guilt heritage and values and show that it is and always has been the vanguard of the social justice movement.
Wait–what’s that? Oh. OH. Really…
Nevermind.
mintycrys on February 16, 2013 at 11:33 AM
My take, also. It is written that the garb of a Pope allowed her to hide her pregnancy (reasonable), but those times were full of “stories” that tend to fail the smell test.
OldEnglish on February 16, 2013 at 11:33 AM
The Julias and the Lena Dunhams of the world fall for it all the time. Nothing makes a Feminist heart melt faster than a man who’s cool with killing babies.
Kensington on February 16, 2013 at 11:37 AM
Wait… Listen you need to understand I’ve never actually seen E.J. I mean, I read everything E.J. writes and just thought, “whiney feminazi”
I, I….
E.J. IS A MAN ?!?!.!.!.!eleventy!
/sigh
John Wayne would shed one manly tear, grit his teeth, then slowly amble away.
Irritable Pundit on February 16, 2013 at 11:46 AM
The stupid is strong with mail slot mouth.
CorporatePiggy on February 16, 2013 at 11:56 AM
And here in the US, as well. The nephew of one my good friends just got ordained in the last year or so. He was 1 of a class of 12 in a Chicago-area seminary. Only 3 of the 12 were actually American. He was assigned to a local Chicago parish, apparently, and even got to perform the wedding mass of his sister.
JimLennon on February 16, 2013 at 12:01 PM
You mean lifting their punishment.
I think the jury is still out.
Cindy Munford on February 16, 2013 at 12:02 PM
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