many people on here aren’t interested in stopping Obama either (L.i.B.)

crrr6 on February 14, 2013 at 1:50 PM

The efficacy of that strategy is nil if they take ownership of the deals through negotiation and compromise. Look at sequester – Obama is blaming it on them even though it was his idea. And let’s not pretend that their negotiated compromises are all that much better than what Obama offered in the first place – so we’re slowing down on that road to the cliff at what 88 mph instead of 90 mph? Except now, the GOP gets to own the consequences just as much as the Dems. Wonderful.

Washington Nearsider on February 14, 2013 at 1:43 PM

They said the same thing about Clinton. The truth is, he can’t run again and he won’t run again, end of story.

The universe where a chunk of the base stayed home and cost us the 2012 election?

Ah I see and to an extent I sympathize…but rather than blaming te CONSUMERS, you might try blaming the Product…Otherwise you are saying “The universe where a chunk of the consumers did nt like the taste of New Cokebase stayed home and cost us sales

the 2012 election

?”

Mitt coudn’t close the deal, not MY problem…..plus that also uder-counts the strength of Obama’s Campaign at the monetary/tactcal/communications level.

many people on here aren’t interested in stopping Obama either (L.i.B.)

I think LiB is a terrible idea and amounts to us ceding the field to the Democrats. Look at Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela by way of example. After more than a decade of Chavista socialism, have they learned anything? No, they keep returning him to power.

There’s a train of thought that if you want voters to realize what a stupid decision they made (twice!), you need to let Obama hang himself with his own policies and let him own the destruction lock stock and barrel (while simultaneously holding enough power to block the most egregiously insane ideas – usually the ones that make structural changes that are basically impossible to do).

I think this isn’t going to happen. We can’t just sit back and wait for Obama to self-destruct. That was one of the Romney campaign’s strategies for 2012 and it totally failed. What we need to do is offer a competing vision and something to excite our voters and get them to actually turn out. Right now the Republicans seem to just be muddling along implementing everything Obama gives them in the hope that if they chase him to the left, they’ll pick up more votes. This isn’t going to work, and it already failed us once.

The problem is that the media never holds him accountable and will always blame us whether we block him or not(separate argument). Obama is particularly adept at passing blame, if you haven’t noticed. But, it is not because R’s are interested in what Obama is offering.

crrr6 on February 14, 2013 at 1:50 PM

The media is not the problem. We have won elections before in the face of massive opposition by the media. The Republican Party itself is the reason why the Republicans can’t win elections.

The Republicans aren’t interested in doing anything to stop Obama as has been made abundantly clear.

Doomberg on February 14, 2013 at 1:33 PM

many people on here aren’t interested in stopping Obama either (L.i.B.) There’s a train of thought that if you want voters to realize what a stupid decision they made (twice!), you need to let Obama hang himself with his own policies and let him own the destruction lock stock and barrel (while simultaneously holding enough power to block the most egregiously insane ideas – usually the ones that make structural changes that are basically impossible to do).

The problem is that the media never holds him accountable and will always blame us whether we block him or not(separate argument). Obama is particularly adept at passing blame, if you haven’t noticed. But, it is not because R’s are interested in what Obama is offering.

And which of DC/Marvel’s Multiverses do you live where this is happening?

JFKY on February 14, 2013 at 1:33 PM

The universe where a chunk of the base stayed home and cost us the 2012 election? I guess you must be from one of those universes where presidents Dole, Romney, and McCain ushered us into a new era of glory.

My issue is that of credibility. He says he’s a conservative, but acts and talks like a libertarian.

And this is important, why?