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Last night there was an article about Michele Bachmann running against Al Franken for his Senate seat.
I believe Karl’s group is more along the line of how ’bout let’s not run a nut and less about the death of the Constitution.
Last night there was an article about Michele Bachmann running against Al Franken for his Senate seat.
I believe Karl’s group is more along the line of how ’bout let’s not run a nut and less about the death of the Constitution.
Marcus on February 9, 2013 at 1:06 PM
So Bachmann is nuttier than Franken? Is that where Republicans are these days?
We are currently ruled by an explicitly anti-constitutional regime.
Karl Rove does not fit that description. Beck jumps the shark, again.
CorporatePiggy on February 9, 2013 at 1:16 PM
Considering that Karl Rove saw the second largest increase in spending since LBJ; I’d put him in the same ball park as Obama…
IF Karl would increase spending, or Karl’s CANDIDATES, would only increase spending by 4%, in real terms, but Obama would increase it by 8%…economic and budget conditions being equal there’s not a lot to choose from between the two.
Last night someone posted a link to a nice “thought piece” and basically Rove et. al. are “Cotton Conservatives”. Google the term and American Spectator for a a read of it. Rove’s “Conservatives” believe that they can spend us to prosperity, better than Obama’s…but really, currently, Rove’s folkz just drive us off the cliff in 2030 rather than 2020….
We are currently ruled by an explicitly anti-constitutional regime.
Karl Rove does not fit that description. Beck jumps the shark, again.
CorporatePiggy on February 9, 2013 at 1:16 PM
True but so what? Do you think some putative TEA/Conservative third party is going to do any good?
Who gave us Nationalized Health Care…the CPSU, the Socialist Workers Party, the Green Party, the Social Democrats? NO, the Democrats, because they have become the party of the Left….
Try to form an alternative to the GOP and just ensure Leftist Dominance for a decade….and, in the end, more than likely you’ll just end up with a bunch squabbling little parties, just like the fringe Left has…and STILL no counter-weight to the Democratic Leftists.
No, it’s where the majority of voting Minnesotans are. Why not offer them someone they wouldn’t dismiss immediately, hmmmmmmm?
Why don’t we let the primary VOTERS of Minnesota decide that, OK?
That’s what chaps my @ss in this…Rove and others just don’t like democracy…why those crazeeee ole’ voters keep’a'choosing the WRONG folk, we needz to step in an’ save’em frum dem selfs….
Bachman gets the nomination, YOU need to support her, assuming you are a Minnesotan….
A third party would almost certainly fail or possibly take 30 years to become established. At that point the US would be known as the People’s Democratic Republic of Amerexico.
Rove is not a Tea Party type, granted, and yes he is associated with the kind of government growth that…every Republican (including St. Reagan) has been tied to, albeit on a larger scale.
I just think people need to take a breath before they equate Rove, he of ‘you magnificent bastard’ fame not so long ago, with the commie dog eater. Beck shrieks like a little girl – it’s his temperament and it sells. But it is not a viable strategy and it is not an option if you are interested in at least slowing down the communist train wreck on the horizon.
If you’re a ‘conservative’ media personality it sounds great to say Let’s burn all the RINOs and their enablers! Victory or death! Hey Reagan did it (except for all that other stuff he did but shut up).
But it is not a viable strategy and it is not an option if you are interested in at least slowing down the communist train wreck on the horizon.
CorporatePiggy on February 9, 2013 at 1:48 PM
But what does that suggest..that we “the people” allow the professional politicians to dictate our choices and values?
Isn’t that how we got in this mess?
Republicans have to choose between Rove and the media shouters?
No wonder Republicans can only win local races.
And socons can go start their own party. They live in their own little fantasy place anyhow. They always ignore the fact that they are a minority. A loud, pushy minority, but still a minority.
And socons can go start their own party. They live in their own little fantasy place anyhow. They always ignore the fact that they are a minority. A loud, pushy minority, but still a minority.
Moesart on February 9, 2013 at 2:11 PM
The problem with that view is that people are not in singularity groups. Some values of the socons are shared by fiscal-cons, and some of both are shared by constitutionalists, etc.
And socons can go start their own party. They live in their own little fantasy place anyhow. They always ignore the fact that they are a minority. A loud, pushy minority, but still a minority.
Moesart on February 9, 2013 at 2:11 PM
Absolute nonsense.
The vast majority of registered republicans hold at least some socially conservative positions, and self-described socons are 40% of the party. Without the social conservatives the GOP couldn’t elect a dogcatcher.
Now, those crazy libertarians/Ronbots, those folks we could do without.
Well, it should come as no surprise to anyone that both the democrat and Republican parties would like nothing more than to gut the U.S. Constitution – - – obama and his libs have made it clear where they stand, and the GOP establishment, led by loons like Rove, is following suit by pushing progressives like Rubio and Christie to the forefront. The Constitution is considered a hindrance to be avoided, rather than a guide to be followed – democrats and the GOP establishment are on the same page.
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vegconservative on February 9, 2013 at 1:01 PM
Last night there was an article about Michele Bachmann running against Al Franken for his Senate seat.
I believe Karl’s group is more along the line of how ’bout let’s not run a nut and less about the death of the Constitution.
Marcus on February 9, 2013 at 1:06 PM
As opposed to Obama, Rove is a Constitutional Saint.
clippermiami on February 9, 2013 at 1:06 PM
Jeeze, Glenn. Drama queen, much?
Warner Todd Huston on February 9, 2013 at 1:07 PM
If you’re more worried about Rove than Obama, you’re doing it wrong.
thebrokenrattle on February 9, 2013 at 1:08 PM
Did he cry? Because it’s Glenn Beck, UNLESS he cries…
Mind you I have little truck for Karl.
JFKY on February 9, 2013 at 1:09 PM
Beck’s comments are compelling . I sues people listen to everything he said and not the above cherry picked title.
Blake on February 9, 2013 at 1:12 PM
I like Glenn, but this is where he he earns the “nut-job” reputation.
rbj on February 9, 2013 at 1:12 PM
‘Cept Obama can’t run for anything any more…whereas Beck and Rove are trying to influence elections that will happen in the future…
But if you like the thought of Speaker Pelosi, by all means think the fight is about or against Obama…that fight was lost in 2008 and 2012.
JFKY on February 9, 2013 at 1:13 PM
What are Roves principles and values? Does anyone know? What does he stand for other than “Republican”?
Mimzey on February 9, 2013 at 1:13 PM
So Bachmann is nuttier than Franken? Is that where Republicans are these days?
Kataklysmic on February 9, 2013 at 1:13 PM
We are currently ruled by an explicitly anti-constitutional regime.
Karl Rove does not fit that description. Beck jumps the shark, again.
CorporatePiggy on February 9, 2013 at 1:16 PM
It may not be a precipitous death, but let’s think about it.
The erosion of freedom has been a long, slow process. Who, through it all, has aided and abetted the erosion? Republicans.
blatantblue on February 9, 2013 at 1:29 PM
Considering that Karl Rove saw the second largest increase in spending since LBJ; I’d put him in the same ball park as Obama…
IF Karl would increase spending, or Karl’s CANDIDATES, would only increase spending by 4%, in real terms, but Obama would increase it by 8%…economic and budget conditions being equal there’s not a lot to choose from between the two.
Last night someone posted a link to a nice “thought piece” and basically Rove et. al. are “Cotton Conservatives”. Google the term and American Spectator for a a read of it. Rove’s “Conservatives” believe that they can spend us to prosperity, better than Obama’s…but really, currently, Rove’s folkz just drive us off the cliff in 2030 rather than 2020….
JFKY on February 9, 2013 at 1:30 PM
No, it’s where the majority of voting Minnesotans are. Why not offer them someone they wouldn’t dismiss immediately, hmmmmmmm?
Marcus on February 9, 2013 at 1:31 PM
So anything that is short of being explicitly anti-constitution is kinda O.K.?
Mimzey on February 9, 2013 at 1:33 PM
True but so what? Do you think some putative TEA/Conservative third party is going to do any good?
Who gave us Nationalized Health Care…the CPSU, the Socialist Workers Party, the Green Party, the Social Democrats? NO, the Democrats, because they have become the party of the Left….
Try to form an alternative to the GOP and just ensure Leftist Dominance for a decade….and, in the end, more than likely you’ll just end up with a bunch squabbling little parties, just like the fringe Left has…and STILL no counter-weight to the Democratic Leftists.
JFKY on February 9, 2013 at 1:33 PM
Why don’t we let the primary VOTERS of Minnesota decide that, OK?
That’s what chaps my @ss in this…Rove and others just don’t like democracy…why those crazeeee ole’ voters keep’a'choosing the WRONG folk, we needz to step in an’ save’em frum dem selfs….
Bachman gets the nomination, YOU need to support her, assuming you are a Minnesotan….
JFKY on February 9, 2013 at 1:35 PM
Sounds to me like the media and ignorant voters are the problem. But of course the GOP would rather go war against conservatives.
Kataklysmic on February 9, 2013 at 1:45 PM
I love the Rove interviews wherein he Proudly Takes Credit for doing what he was dragged kicking and screaming to do.
jaydee_007 on February 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM
JFKY – thanks for the link to Cotton Whigs.
A third party would almost certainly fail or possibly take 30 years to become established. At that point the US would be known as the People’s Democratic Republic of Amerexico.
Rove is not a Tea Party type, granted, and yes he is associated with the kind of government growth that…every Republican (including St. Reagan) has been tied to, albeit on a larger scale.
I just think people need to take a breath before they equate Rove, he of ‘you magnificent bastard’ fame not so long ago, with the commie dog eater. Beck shrieks like a little girl – it’s his temperament and it sells. But it is not a viable strategy and it is not an option if you are interested in at least slowing down the communist train wreck on the horizon.
CorporatePiggy on February 9, 2013 at 1:48 PM
Yikes!!
sues = suggest
I may have to get a new laptop this pm. This one is done!
Blake on February 9, 2013 at 1:49 PM
That’s a feature, not a bug.
LegendHasIt on February 9, 2013 at 1:50 PM
I think Beck is jumping into Levin’s boat here.
If you’re a ‘conservative’ media personality it sounds great to say Let’s burn all the RINOs and their enablers! Victory or death! Hey Reagan did it (except for all that other stuff he did but shut up).
CorporatePiggy on February 9, 2013 at 1:51 PM
But what does that suggest..that we “the people” allow the professional politicians to dictate our choices and values?
Isn’t that how we got in this mess?
Mimzey on February 9, 2013 at 1:54 PM
Which is ironic, considering Rove is more worried about conservatives than Obama and the democrats.
xblade on February 9, 2013 at 1:57 PM
The simple fact is, if we’re going to be stuck with the democrat party and the democrat-lite party, we’re screwed.
That said, let the RINOs form a new party, the GOP must be seized by conservatives/teapartiers and the RINOs purged from any leadership positions.
Rebar on February 9, 2013 at 1:59 PM
I still say the country switches party every 8-12 ys no matter what.
Blake on February 9, 2013 at 2:07 PM
Republicans have to choose between Rove and the media shouters?
No wonder Republicans can only win local races.
And socons can go start their own party. They live in their own little fantasy place anyhow. They always ignore the fact that they are a minority. A loud, pushy minority, but still a minority.
Moesart on February 9, 2013 at 2:11 PM
The problem with that view is that people are not in singularity groups. Some values of the socons are shared by fiscal-cons, and some of both are shared by constitutionalists, etc.
United we stand, divided we fall.
Mimzey on February 9, 2013 at 2:17 PM
So you think Bachmann is more of nut than Franken is?
Please – NUTS can win. Franken is proof of it. The Dims have a good, loyal man in him. He always votes reliably progressive.
I’ll take a psychopathic conservative who reliably votes conservative to a sane Ayatoola RINO squish any day.
HondaV65 on February 9, 2013 at 2:21 PM
Absolute nonsense.
The vast majority of registered republicans hold at least some socially conservative positions, and self-described socons are 40% of the party. Without the social conservatives the GOP couldn’t elect a dogcatcher.
Now, those crazy libertarians/Ronbots, those folks we could do without.
Rebar on February 9, 2013 at 3:11 PM
Well, it should come as no surprise to anyone that both the democrat and Republican parties would like nothing more than to gut the U.S. Constitution – - – obama and his libs have made it clear where they stand, and the GOP establishment, led by loons like Rove, is following suit by pushing progressives like Rubio and Christie to the forefront. The Constitution is considered a hindrance to be avoided, rather than a guide to be followed – democrats and the GOP establishment are on the same page.
Pork-Chop on February 9, 2013 at 3:20 PM