steebo77 on February 8, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Think about this. An illegal alien using a TIN can claim up to 50 family members still in Mexico as dependents if he claims he sends them more 50% of their total living expenses. If they can get their taxes low enough through this method, they can get a 100% refund of their medicare and social security payments refunded.

Anyone saying illegal aliens are net contributors to our tax receipts is a blatant liar.

As Reason Foundation Senior Analyst Shikha Dalmia has reported, in 2006 an estimated 8 million illegal immigrants—up to two thirds of the total—paid taxes, including both income taxes and Medicare and Social Security taxes.

I call bullshite. Aren’t most of them getting paid in cash, outside of the employment tax reporting system?

BuckeyeSam on February 8, 2013 at 10:54 AM

I don’t know if the number is really two thirds, but I was surprised to learn (through personal experience) that the majority of illegal immigrants use Tax ID Numbers to file income taxes each year. They may be underpaying by under-reporting their cash earnings, but they are paying taxes. Their main motive is to have a multi-year record of tax payments in the event that that is a condition of amnesty. The IRS cannot share the information from their returns with any other agency.

Is it they just get paid and it is simple greed?

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 8, 2013 at 11:22 AM

No, it’s that Libertarians are a subspecies of that most dangerous breed of Man- idealists.

In their ideal vision of society, there would be no welfare state, no government benefits, no public schools. Immigrants who came would have to sink or swim like everyone else without the prospect of taxpayer funded benefits (because there would be practically none).

While I agree with most of their ideals, I’m also realistic enough to understand that their ideals will never come to pass. Being idealists, they don’t operate from a baseline of reality.

4. Immigration Is a Natural Right

Last week, Judge Andrew Napolitano explained here at Reason.com that immigration is a natural right.

On what planet is this true? Ok, I’m going to go over to my neighbor’s house and plunk my butt down on his couch because it’s comfier than mine and turn on his TV because it’s bigger than mine and raid his fridge because he has better food. Hey, it’s my natural right! Napolitano is a perfect example of why I can’t be a Libertarian. They aren’t Libertarians, they are anarchists.

And another thing – why is it America’s immigration policy that’s “broken”? Why not the Mexican and other governments that cannot give their citizens a decent life, why aren’t they the ones that are broken?

Perhaps libertarians need to go to Mexico and “fix” it, rather than insist on the suicide of America as a republic. After all, the Mexican immigration policy is far harsher than anything even the most anti-immigrant conservative is suggesting.

Rebar on February 8, 2013 at 11:12 AM

That would require them acknowledging that Mexico has some serious laws on the books against illegal immigration. Ask the Guatamalans that come to Mexico illegal and see if Mexico is “thinking” about amnesty.

And I am sorry but in this economy illegal immigration does not help the economy. I remember when Alabama made their laws tougher and illegals fled that state. There were lines around the block to get the factory jobs they fled.. with legal workers..

I just do not know how grown humans can self delude themselves so total.

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Is it they just get paid and it is simple greed?