Is Turkey leaving the west?
Third, the SCO fits his Islamist impulse to defy the West and to dream of an alternative to it. The SCO, with Russian and Chinese as official languages, has deeply anti-Western DNA, and its meetings bristle with anti-Western sentiments. For example, when Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad addressed the group in 2011, no one refused his conspiracy theory about 9/11 being a U.S. government inside job used “as an excuse for invading Afghanistan and Iraq and for killing and wounding over a million people.” Many backers echo Egyptian analyst Galal Nassar in his hope that ultimately the SCO “will have a chance of settling the international contest in its favor.” Conversely, as a Japanese official has noted, “The SCO is becoming a rival block to the U.S. alliance. It does not share our values.”
Turkish steps toward joining the Shanghai group highlight Ankara’s now-ambivalent membership in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, starkly symbolized by the unprecedented joint Turkish-Chinese air exercise of 2010. Given this reality, Erdoğan’s Turkey is no longer a trustworthy partner for the West but more like a mole in its inner sanctum. If not expelled, it should at least be suspended from NATO.









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It was never part of the West, not really. Granted, Ataturk and his secularizers made a valiant effort, but it didn’t take.
AndStatistics on February 7, 2013 at 4:27 PM
I’d say that it’s already gone (to the extent that it was every part of the west). Except, of course, in their birth rates.
besser tot als rot on February 7, 2013 at 4:30 PM
Duh.
Nessuno on February 7, 2013 at 4:31 PM
It’s back to arabic script for the Turks, I guess. The 100 year experiment came to a definite end in 2003 when the EU forced Turkey to amend their constitution to take supreme power away from the secular military just to be considered for EU membership, which the EU never intended to extend to them, rightly so, but they didn’t have to totally ruin Turkey in the process … though that is how Europe likes to do things.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 7, 2013 at 4:31 PM
Its Islamic, it has never been with the “West”.
Do they play the “West” yes.
Does the “West” via its inept leaders allow the “West” to be played, well yes.
Read in your history of the area.
Read how and where the center of the islamic empire operated.
Read of the “slaves” and where they came from, if you do not act based on facts you will make a deadly mistake.
APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 7, 2013 at 4:32 PM
The Europeans are happy.
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk twitches in his grave.
Erdogan used to be sane, until he married a muzzie freak.
Schadenfreude on February 7, 2013 at 4:32 PM
We’ve known Turkey’s been lost for quite some time. It started with the Iraq War and has been getting steadily worse. It was probably inevitable when Erdogan took over.
Doomberg on February 7, 2013 at 4:39 PM
Turkey is in for interesting times in the next 20 to 40 years. The overall birth rate is a little below replacement. However, the Kurds in Turkey have fertility rates well above replacement, more than double that of ethnic Turks. http://tinyurl.com/blcqtkk
Erdogan’s party hasn’t been any more successful in resolving the Kurdish problem than the Kemalists were.
DRPrice on February 7, 2013 at 4:50 PM
They still think they can return to the Ottoman Empire days, they never have been with the West. The Russians may well remember a couple of wars they fought with those guys too.
major dad on February 7, 2013 at 4:53 PM
If you mean are they about to quit pretending to be Western, yes!
They never WERE Western and their membership in NATO is a joke. Frankly NATO itself has become just another group that without us might as well be a tea party, but that’s another topic.
MelonCollie on February 7, 2013 at 4:59 PM
So does that mean we will not be sending them F-15′s and other weapons?
I didn’t think so.
Remember the Rules of Acquisition #203: Customers are like razor-toothed gree-worms. They can be succulent, but sometimes they bite back.
Bulletchaser on February 7, 2013 at 5:01 PM
A few days ago in another topic I asked the rhetorical question why is Turkey still in NATO… Writing about this should be a Capt. Obvious moment, but unfortunately, I’m afraid for this administration it is not.
deepdiver on February 7, 2013 at 6:04 PM
When was Turkey ever part of “the West”? If they were for some relatively brief period of time, it was only as tourists. It was a vacation.
farsighted on February 7, 2013 at 6:09 PM
I’m even more inclined to ask why we are still in NATO, especially after many of our NATO allies failed to live up to their obligations in the alliance in Afghanistan.
Turkey refused to back us when we toppled Saddam, a neighbor of theirs who had invaded three other neighbors. It would not even allow us passage to send troops into northern Iraq. We may have some limited common interests, but I wouldn’t call Turkey much of an ally. You should be able to count on your allies to support you militarily. Alliances are not a one way street.
farsighted on February 7, 2013 at 6:17 PM
Hear, hear.
farsighted on February 7, 2013 at 6:20 PM
Turkey never was a Western country.
They were the last gasp of the medieval islamic caliphate that was defeated in World War I.
wildcat72 on February 7, 2013 at 6:23 PM
I wonder if the EU planned to make it obvious just how incompatible Turkey is with the EU, culturally speaking.
MetaThought on February 7, 2013 at 6:43 PM
I never knew that about Turkish slaves & I just read about it. Yikes!
8 weight on February 7, 2013 at 7:14 PM