Paul Bedard
GOP: With big Latino vote, Rubio would win presidency
A new nationwide poll from JZ Analytics found that Rubio would get 48 percent of the Hispanic vote, about twice what Mitt Romney won in 2012. Republican strategist told Secrets that a win among Latino voters that big would assure Rubio the presidency, since he would also likely keep the regular GOP base.
“If he does that good, then he’s the next president,” said a senior GOP official. “It makes him The Man, I guess,” added the official.
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No. All the Dem nominee has to do is propose whatever Rubio suggests for immigration reform and add some cash on top and they`d win.
ThePrez on February 4, 2013 at 12:13 PM
Oy vay!
trs on February 4, 2013 at 12:15 PM
It would be an interesting test, but I’m pretty sure the Latinos are just as orthodox about La Raza and which way they vote as blacks are.
Rubio would be branded as a White Latino or something and shunned by the rest.
TexasDan on February 4, 2013 at 12:16 PM
Yeah, this is never going to happen. The GOP on this issue is like a guy saying “As soon as I win the jackpot for Powerball or Mega Millions.”
It’s never going to happen. They need to get real.
Doomberg on February 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM
No, he wouldn’t come close to winning the primaries. Not in the ’16 cycle, anyway. A glance at historical GOP voting trends would tell you that.
tommy71 on February 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM
I don’t believe the lation’s will vote in those high numbers for a r no matter who it is?
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letget on February 4, 2013 at 12:20 PM
With big Latino vote,
Rubioany Republican would win presidencyWhat makes Rubio so special?
Mark1971 on February 4, 2013 at 12:20 PM
First of all, LOL.
Secondly, who cares? What use is the Presidency if we have to give away America to get it, which is what Rubio is pushing for?
Thirdly, Rubio is ineligible.
Lastly, Rubio is slimeball idiot.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 4, 2013 at 12:20 PM
Exactly. Latinos have sold out to the Democrat welfare system and that is that. We are fortunate to even get a third of their votes; getting the majority is outright fantasy.
MelonCollie on February 4, 2013 at 12:20 PM
doubt it…with this lsm, they’ll demonize relentlessly…
cmsinaz on February 4, 2013 at 12:22 PM
And with jet packs we can all fly to work.
We should just pander to whoever is the biggest voting bloc. That’s the ticket.
Yeah…
Gatsu on February 4, 2013 at 12:22 PM
Just read the article. It’s based on a Zogby poll. LMAO!
Mark1971 on February 4, 2013 at 12:26 PM
Elect somebody from the Senate with minimal experience? Fails every time it’s tried. Not so much the election part but definitely the leadership part.
rhombus on February 4, 2013 at 12:30 PM
Yes it is a Zogby poll, but apparently Latino voters are willing to vote solely based on identity. It is against Hillary.. which means that it is mainly a name recognition game right now. This sticks out because everyone else is ZOMG Hillary.
Yeah that is with an electable runnner up candidate.. Santorum isn’t one of those. The 2016 race is going to end up looking like the 2000 race rather than the 2008 or 2012 race.
Illinidiva on February 4, 2013 at 12:32 PM
LOL
How in the world is he ineligible?
He was born in Miami. He’s 41. And he’s lived in the United States for over 14 years.
ButterflyDragon on February 4, 2013 at 12:35 PM
This feels like deja vu to me. Romney went around trying to get everyone else’s vote, totally ignoring the conservative base’s vote. Now Rooobio is running around trying to get the Latino vote……and ignoring the conservative base’s vote.
What’s that saying about the true sign of insanity…..doing the same thing over and over, but expecting a different outcome?
*sigh*
tencole on February 4, 2013 at 12:37 PM
His parents weren’t American citizens when he was born. Ask Chester Arthur about that.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 4, 2013 at 12:40 PM
That would make Big Sugar happiest
tmitsss on February 4, 2013 at 12:40 PM
Huh? Not sure what one has to do with the other. They tried to claim Chester Arthur wasn’t born in the United States, when we know for a fact Marco Rubio was born in Miami.
Chester Arthur’s parents had nothing to do with the claims he wasn’t born in the United States.
You got some pretty weird logic going on here.
ButterflyDragon on February 4, 2013 at 12:48 PM
Look who’s talking.
John the Libertarian on February 4, 2013 at 12:48 PM
@Illinidiva Started again? Who are you to decide who is or isn’t electable? Lol. Again, delusional. Thats for the GOP electorate to decide. Oh yeah, you’re the one who goes by feelings.
tommy71 on February 4, 2013 at 12:49 PM
Evidently, you know very little about the facts of Arthur’s case and why he destroyed or hid his documentation. Perhaps, you should learn what you’re speaking about before you ramble on?
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM
Someone who respects the notion of the nation-state and the concepts of sovereignty and the Rule of Law, as the Founders did – as the Founders viewed as fundamental.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 4, 2013 at 12:54 PM
After 8 years of Obama, all I have to say is…where do I sign?
crrr6 on February 4, 2013 at 12:55 PM
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM
Marco Rubio is a natural born citizen. You are anti-Constitution if you think he’s ineligible.
sauldalinsky on February 4, 2013 at 12:56 PM
@tommy71. Umm if Santorum wins the nomination then the R party has jumped the shark. I’ll be voting present against the moral nag.
Illinidiva on February 4, 2013 at 12:56 PM
If you say so …
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 4, 2013 at 12:58 PM
Soooo.. you’re claiming Marco Rubio destroyed all documentation of his birth in Miami?
Bet you’re worried about chemtrails too, huh?
ButterflyDragon on February 4, 2013 at 1:00 PM
I was also convinced at hotair the other day that Ted Cruz is eligible. Cruz was born in Canada but it appears that both of his parents were Americans, and so he’s apparently always had American citizenship since birth. That would make Cruz a natural born citizen.
sauldalinsky on February 4, 2013 at 1:02 PM
@Illinidiva Vote as you like. Thats your judgement. I don’t necessarily support Santorum. Oh yeah, I do believe that it’ll be a retread that wins the nomination in ’16. What we have today is flashes in a pan. They may enter the primaries, but as they lose, they’ll quickly drop out. And I mean all 3 Rs.
tommy71 on February 4, 2013 at 1:03 PM
Ummm.. The Bushes and the New World Order doctored Rubio’s birth certificate.. duh. SPARC off.
Illinidiva on February 4, 2013 at 1:07 PM
Of course you would. He’s a little too conservative for a closet lib like you, lol.
xblade on February 4, 2013 at 1:14 PM
Si se puede!
Rubiio 2016! wooohooo!
terryannonline on February 4, 2013 at 1:21 PM
LOL. No. I’m suggesting that you should go find out why Arthur destroyed and hid HIS documentation, which led to the rumor that he was born in Canada, which was not true. Arthur was worried that he was not a natural born citizen … for a reason. A reason that you obviously don’t know, but should have been able to figure out by what I wrote to you.
How you got to your response above, which is just nutty, is a total mystery. WTF are you smoking?
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM
I hate to say it, but this is true. Rubio would do much better with Latino voters than any other potential GOP candidate for obvious reasons. And if he did manage to get nearly half of them to vote for the Republican ticket, he’d be a shoo-in for the Presidency(especially if we assume the Democrat nominee won’t be black which will lead to lower turnout amongst that voting bloc).
C’mon, this is the only reason he’s being floated about as a serious contender in 2016. Unless the GOP retakes the Senate next year, odds are he’ll have a resume almost as thin as Obama’s circa 2008, only without a complicit media building him up as the messiah.
Doughboy on February 4, 2013 at 1:27 PM
Wait, why would Latinos vote for a GOP candidate? …ohhhh yeah, ’cause he’s Latino. Those are Republican vote you can count on! Can’t wait to see the interviews:
Reporter – “Why are you voting for Rubio?”
Erm..”Latino” – “Well, he promised to legalize the poor Latinos in America who just don’t want to be separated from their children. We have a right to be here you know. This country stole the land from Mexico.”
Reporter – “Do you believe in smaller government, like Republicans?”
“Latino” – “…Smaller what?”
Dongemaharu on February 4, 2013 at 1:31 PM
Not if an amnesty bill passes.
Wigglesworth on February 4, 2013 at 1:41 PM
In reality, which is not where this nebulous, generic “GOP” referred to here is focused, IF Rubio runs AS A DEMOCRAT, he’d win their nomination — outcome, however, dependent on who the REAL GOP ran against him/them.
IF Rubio ran as a Democrat, and promised ethnic-advantage-based government goods to be made available from what he’d expand greatly as to government, then he may win an election against whomever.
The GOP, whoever that is that this article is referring to as to some central authority, is entirely fantasizing about some imagined massive appeal to “Latinos,” however, based solely on Rubio AS Latino. Because it’s socialism (big govertnment, government-provided goods, things, monies, houses, etc.) that the “Latino” vote is after. Same as MOST Asians, Jews and Blacks.
That’s the reality the GOP is denying while trying to maintain the “hey, look at me” cry of desperation for votes instead of standing for something beside vanity and Being-Democrat-Too.
Lourdes on February 4, 2013 at 1:59 PM
This article seems to be out of Karl Rove’s notebook.
Lourdes on February 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM
Rove – Jeb Bush – Marco Rubio and associates.
We’re going to be reading a lot more articles like this one, touting the “overwhelming reports that the vast majority of (fill in your handy group appeal here) are supportive of…”
Lourdes on February 4, 2013 at 2:02 PM
How exactly is Santorum a conservative? He’s basically a less pleasant, more nagging version of CHuckles.
Illinidiva on February 4, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Yes, that’s about the extent of it.
Lourdes on February 4, 2013 at 2:04 PM
Primordial is saying that Rubio’s a citizen, but not a “natural born citizen” (and thus, per Primorial’s point of view, not eligible for the US Presidency).
I hate to see this argument reasserted; but I’m now more than sure all that namecalling/attack/crud was part not only of Obama’s plan but also the GOP’s.
Most people have read so much on all fronts as to this issue by now and already decided where they stand. It’s pointless to try to argue it out one way or the other.
But as I did state many times in the past few years, UNTIL or UNLESS the issue of what the INTENT IS of the Founders in what they wrote as to Presidential reqs is *finally* determined or resolved, then the argument will inevitably continue as long as any citizen not born of US citizen parents runs for the Presidency.
Lourdes on February 4, 2013 at 2:12 PM
Considering that Jeb Bush has basically been sniping at Rubio, I think that those two may have broken up. It’s true that Jeb Bush used Rubio to tank Crist’s career for Jeb Bush’s own personal reasons. We should all be thankful for that. However, Jeb Bush also wanted to run for President in 2016. Rubio’s very obvious desire to live in the White House has really put the breaks on the Jeb Bush vanity run. So whatever you think of Rubio as a candidate, we should all be thankful that he may have ended both Charlie Crist and Jeb Bush’s careers.
Illinidiva on February 4, 2013 at 2:12 PM
Damn … it looks to me like the establishment is about to swallow some of their own medicine …
The guy THEY OPPOSED for Florida Senate may now be the most “electable” candidate the GOP has.
Sweet Irony!!
HondaV65 on February 4, 2013 at 2:14 PM
But one would have to be blind and unaware of what Obama has wrought to not be aware of the importance of being “natural born” as a US Citizen; the importance of being stewed in, so to speak, what and who this nation is over at least a few generations of ancestry v. being someone looking in on the US with animosity from a competitor’s politic.
I think, on a personal level, that that is, indeed, the intent of the Founders in their requirement that one be “natural born” of the US as a citizen, that one be “of this nation” without one foot elsewhere.
Lourdes on February 4, 2013 at 2:17 PM
Oh, families squabble all the time.
Remember Barbara Bush years ago dreamily speaking of Rubio as if he was one of her boys?
Rubio is a Jeb Bush mentee. They may argue, whatever, but it doesn’t alter that, and Rove is their add-on general helper (loss for words there but perhaps I make my point).
Lourdes on February 4, 2013 at 2:20 PM
You may not be understanding that Rubio has assumed Jeb Bush’s career, so to speak…thus, it’s not “ended” it’s just changed clothes.
Lourdes on February 4, 2013 at 2:22 PM
Here’s a better idea:
Castro goes to meet his judgement and Marco Rubio goes to Cuba, runs for President there and wins!
Jeb Bush inevitably returns to Mexico and runs for President there and wins! They can fix any law in Mexico, even elect a US Citizen as their Presedente.
And Obama can retire to the beaches of the hot climates and be the Baby O he knows he wants to be.
Lourdes on February 4, 2013 at 2:26 PM
Argh..like Obama, Rubio is “native born” but he isn’t “natural born.”
At this rate, all the newer immigrant citizens just can’t handle the difference, won’t tolerate that there’s a distinction.
Fine, then everyone’s natural born, regardless, one big happy family.
It’s the INTENT of the Constitution that matters. And all the adaptations rooted upon the 14th Amendment since it was written have been, at least many of them have been, contrary to the intent of that Amendment.
Lourdes on February 4, 2013 at 2:32 PM
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