When can the U.S. kill Americans? The White House won’t say
Sen. Ron Wyden has spent two years demanding that the Obama administration share its legal opinions justifying the targeted assassinations of suspected American terrorists abroad. After all, as a member of the Intelligence Committee, the Oregon Democrat is entitled (and cleared) to know. How can his panel provide oversight if officials won’t say what legal authority they have, let alone in which countries it applies? The White House has spent those two years stonewalling. “The administration’s position is basically, ‘Trust us,’” Wyden tells National Journal. “Nowhere in the charge to the committee does oversight get defined as trusting the executive branch of the United States.”
In part, Wyden is just a recent victim of a shift in constitutional power that has been going on for decades, back to when President Truman ordered forces into Korea without congressional approval. But today’s covert war—in which spies and soldiers kill people without trial—establishes new terrain somewhere between military and intelligence activities. Here, the executive branch feels compelled to protect its security interests at the same time that Congress has the constitutional power to declare and oversee war. And rather than explain why it considers its tactics legal even off the battlefield, the White House simply claims authority to do as it pleases under the Authorization of Use of Military Force passed by Congress after the Sept. 11 attacks. “Without real public accountability,” says former Rep. Lee Hamilton, a cochairman of the 9/11 commission who now directs Indiana University’s Center on Congress, “the president has the power to kill people any time, based on a secret process. That, as far as I’m aware, is unprecedented.”
President Obama’s refusal to declare or explain his legal right to kill follows White House tradition. According to reports, President Clinton secretly authorized the assassination of Osama bin Laden, his lieutenants, and possibly even unconnected people.









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Where’s DoucheBear , mlester,and libfreakily when you need em?
CW on February 3, 2013 at 4:34 PM
bhocare will take care of lots of American’s being killed! Just take a pill, you aren’t covered for that, if you are old or have some major medical condition, and if you aren’t some of those who get waivers you will never be able to afford it and the irs will take everything you have to pay your bill!
I know this isn’t on the issue but the question was when can the wh kill American’s!
I think bho would do away with any American that does not agree with him, that is just my opinion!
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letget on February 3, 2013 at 4:40 PM
It’s amazing to me that surprisingly few HotAir conservatives had a problem with killing al-Aulaqi, an American citizen. Let’s get something straight here – I’d have offed the guy myself I ran into him myself. And … I really don’t shed tears over the death of al-Aulaqi – I hope when the drones hit him it was painful and I hope he suffered.
However, I do NOT believe in giving the POTUS – any POTUS – the unchecked naked power of deciding life and death of ANY U.S. citizen unilaterally. al-Aulaqi technically was NOT on a battlefield … al-Aulaqi had never actually BEEN on a battlefield either.
This kind of power – could be – and WOULD BE used against any “uppity” conservatives who argued against the regime. The POTUS simply declares a guy a “terrorist” and then it’s okay to off him?
Uhm no … I don’t agree with this. I’m glad al-Aulaqi is dead but killing him was wrong.
There needs to be a way FOR CONGRESS to declare a person a COMBATANT ENEMY. Even allow the accused to show up and defend himself in closed hearings. He likely won’t – but should be given the chance. Once declared a “combatant” then, even though he’s a U.S. citizen – he can be targeted the same as any other terrorist. Until that happens – the man should be subject to due-process only.
No – it’s not a perfect recommendation – but it beats the living sh&t out giving the POTUS the supreme power to “off” Americans.
HondaV65 on February 3, 2013 at 4:43 PM
Yeah, seriously, where’s libtardordie to tell us how our home defense weapons are no match for his messiah’s fleet of drones?
CurtZHP on February 3, 2013 at 4:44 PM
Oh, I don’t know…how about, say, like NEVER?
Amendment X on February 3, 2013 at 4:46 PM
Tuesday. But waterboarding is strictly verboten.
Stoic Patriot on February 3, 2013 at 4:46 PM
Just wanted to add …
The U.S. Congress approves Congressional Medals of Honor on a routine basis for American troops who deserve them.
Why can’t the Congress devote a little bit of time toward looking at evidence and declaring a citizen a terrorist if warranted?
What else are they doing? Not like they are debating and passing any budgets up there.
HondaV65 on February 3, 2013 at 4:47 PM
Enhanced techniques are temporary. Death is forever.
CW on February 3, 2013 at 4:51 PM
the Constitution actually says when you can… and when you can arrest someone without a warrant.. and when you can spy on an american citizen without a warrant… and which branch of government can raise/invent taxes… and who is actually a native born citizen..but f that misguided racist mess.
who needs that dead old document written by long dead exploitative old heterosexual crackers when the Chosen One ,Lord Putty Butt and his Mom Jeans, will take care of everything?
mittens on February 3, 2013 at 4:51 PM
Buuush! War Criminal!
Aplombed on February 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM
We pay an amazing price for having an uninformed and uninterested electorate.
Revenant on February 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM
HondaV65 on February 3, 2013 at 4:43 PM
jawkneemusic on February 3, 2013 at 4:55 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-02-02/government-protects-criminals-attacking-whistleblowers
mittens on February 3, 2013 at 4:56 PM
Rev Jesse Jackson has called for Mr. Obama to “do something” about all the killings in Chicago. By something, he means to have “Homeland Security” do something about it. It’s no wonder that violence is allowed to spiral out of control in Chicago—it feeds into the “we need to have a domestic army, that’s just as strong, just as well funded as the US military.” Their first deployment will be to Chicago. I mean, they’ve already bought up all of the weapons and rounds to supply the deployment.
ted c on February 3, 2013 at 5:00 PM
The Princess Bride disagrees. =P
Stoic Patriot on February 3, 2013 at 5:21 PM
Just curious. Who’s doing all these killings?
Prarie Fire. Light the flame to the dry grass and stand back, laughing yourself silly.
vityas on February 3, 2013 at 5:25 PM
I would not be surprised if Obama, et al use this as a means to introduce his private security force. Who would object? The first one who does will be derided by the media as not wanting to make the streets safer.
It is something the low info voter will applaud. And the Revrund Jacksun will get the people behind it.
davidk on February 3, 2013 at 6:03 PM
HondaV65 on February 3, 2013 at 4:43 PM
With you 100%.
Firefly_76 on February 3, 2013 at 6:45 PM
Why can’t Chicago with its great leaders solve its own damn problems instead of looking to Washington. I guess that Jackson thinks that Obama is some sort of god.
SC.Charlie on February 3, 2013 at 7:23 PM
They were Americans?
The Rogue Tomato on February 3, 2013 at 7:25 PM
If congress actually declared war anymore this would be much easier to explain. al-Aulaqi in that case was fighting for the declared enemy and was therefore a legit target. The other problem is declaration of war sort of requires a nation state. We did launch Military engagements authorized by Congress in the Quasi-War (1798) against France, the Barbary Wars (1802, 1815), without a declaration of war. So I don’t know.
I think the key to me is has an American citizen actively joined a declared (by congress) or authorized (by congress) enemy of the United States. The president should not have the right to whack his own declared enemies of the country.
William Eaton on February 3, 2013 at 7:27 PM
Thank God we have stopped waterboarding terrorists. That was such an inhuman practice./s
SC.Charlie on February 3, 2013 at 7:40 PM