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[1] The bottom-barrel ports are directly underneath the top ones. And no, the ports look to be (IMO) about 45° off the vertical axis of the barrel (basically at right-angles off the center line).
[2] Those are propellant gases… if I had to guess, they had the photo guy do an ‘auto-fire’ on the shutter as he pulled the trigger… please note they went out of their way to post a photo of the weapon discharging.
Too bad they have anybody about to tell the TOTUS raise the barrels a little more cause I can’t imagine what’s he shooting at…
Whoa, take a closer look. IS that smoke photo shopped?
IF he just pulled the trigger (which if looks like he hasn’t yet)his cheek wouldn’t be comfortably pressed against the butt and his shoulder would be jammed back.
I call BS!
katy on February 2, 2013 at 11:42 AM
Hmmm. You might be right.
It would fit with most everything else they do. Do exactly what they claim no one should do.
Not “all of the time,” which was the most laughable part of his original statement. So laughable, in fact, that even the CNN White House correspondent, Jessica Yellin, incredulously asked The Spokeskid about it.
Obama uses Camp David less than any other President and skeet shooting isn’t something high on the list of usual daily activities in Martha’s Vineyard or Hawaii. At most, according to the WH reporter at the WaPo, who studies the President’s diary, he’s done it twice.
“All of the time” = Twice
“A middle class family will see their health insurance premiums DECREASE by 3,000%” = “The cheapest policy under Obamacare will cost $20,000″
Great idea, but Wounded Warrior refuses to associate itself with shooting events. I don’t know about Fisher House, though.
juliesa on February 2, 2013 at 11:43 AM
I’m assuming that there is a prominent military charity that they can find that would want to be involved with it. The thing is that Obama is just so thin skinned that he couldn’t laugh off what was an obvious bald-faced pander and turn it around into something positive like that.. Clinton, Reagan, Bush all could.
I did an error level analysis on the photo, and the smoke (nor anything else) does appear to NOT be photoshopped in…. But there is no evidence of recoil in his posture, so I’m betting it was a blank.
I found the original uploaded image on flikr (not the actual original image, unfortunately and all exif data has been erased.
Unlike the previous picture in the photostream which has the full exif data embedded.
And note their scare warning…
This official White House photograph is being made available only for publication by news organizations and/or for personal use printing by the subject(s) of the photograph. The photograph may not be manipulated in any way and may not be used in commercial or political materials,
Which, if the photo was done by a government employee, or on government property, they can’t legally enforce. That photo is OURS to do with as we please.
But in the 1990s – another moment in time when an event in North Korea varies (some say it happened in 1991 and others in 1994), the late dictator, then 50 (or 53) years old, set a golfing standard that will assuredly never be surpassed. It occurred at the grand opening of the Pyongyang Golf Complex, which contains North Korea’s only 18-hole golf course.
After picking up a golf club that day for the very first time in his life, the Dear Leader of the Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea fired a 38-under-par round of 34 at Pyongyang. According to the 17 security guards who observed the performance, the score included an amazing 11 aces. Naturally, the event was dutifully reported to the North Korean masses by the state news agency.
Why do you hate “the people” so much? Marxist dictators accomplish amazing feats as a result of they love the receive from “the people.” We shant question the miracles that are achieved through “people power.”
After picking up a golf club that day for the very first time in his life, the Dear Leader of the Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea fired a 38-under-par round of 34 at Pyongyang.
The main issue here is Americans have a constitutional right to guns for something WAY more important than to engage in an elitist sport like shooting skeet…
We have this right to defend ourselves from governmental tyranny…Obama’s tyranny, specifically.
Snark aside, the question is not whether Obama has ever shot a high-end shotgun of a style often used for skeet shooting, but whether he has actually shot skeet and whether he does it “all the time” as claimed. This photograph addresses neither of those questions.
What would explain Obama going out at 8:30 PM on a beautiful evening in August that has him holding the shotgun dead level.
Not shooting skeet, that’s for sure. Shooting targets would, and particularly so if the targets were pictures of Mitt Romney.
No wait, Obama loves to go skeet shooting after Kim Rhodes sets a record for gold medals by winning a gold medal in skeet shooting and he gets to talk about it that day in his weekly radio address along with the fact that he’s jealous that Michelle got to go to the Olympics and he couldn’t.
I hate to be a tin foil hatter, but anybody who’s watched or participated in skeet shooting knows that it’s pretty rare to wait until the clay is at eye level to shoot at it, at that point it’s almost on the ground, which is what the picture here suggests. So yeah, either it was staged or Obama just isn’t very good at skeet, one is just as likely as the other.
Yeah, but POTUS is shooting a double-barrel, and that is so totally different! /s
That would explain the gas plume in front of the wad coming out.
AZfederalist on February 2, 2013 at 12:41 PM
I’m pretty sure that’s not the wad. I think what folks are seeing is what appears to be a brass choke in the muzzle. (Which corresponds to the Browning Cynergy someone pointed out earlier.) If there is something else there I can’t see it.
Looks like a Browning from the gold trigger. I might shoot that low if it was a pheasant skimming the brush tops or for patterning, but not for any clay games.
I don’t shoot shotguns but is it wise to rest your cheek on the butt of a gun like that? Especially a shotgun?
When shooting rifles and shotguns the cheek is placed firmly on the comb of the stock in what is called a “cheek weld”. If you don’t do it, you can’t align your eye with the sights properly, and it hurts a lot when the gun smacks you. Obama is not aiming this shotgun. He’s simply firing a shot for a publicity pic.
His head is tilted forward and his eye is below the plane of the barrel rib.
You don’t aim a shotgun the way you do a rifle. With a shotgun the eye is actually the rear sight. To place the “rear sight” correctly the head is held erect and the gun is mounted to the shoulder and a cheek weld is obtained. This places the eye above the plane of the barrel.
The way Barry is holding that shotgun if it was actually a full power shell it hurt when he pulled the trigger.
I’m skeptical that it was full power because, first, it’s odd that smoke only came from the ports on the right side of the barrel. I’ve never seen that in all the ported shotguns I’ve seen fired.
Second, there is no indication of recoil in his body. With a pic taken at the instant of firing the recoil should be obvious.
I’m not sure what’s sticking out of the end of the top barrel, unless it’s an extended choke tube.
White House releases photo of Obama firing gun
Associated Press – 1 hr 28 mins ago
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House has released a photo of President Barack Obama firing a gun, two days before he heads to Minnesota to discuss gun control.
In a recent interview with The New Republic magazine, Obama said “yes” when asked if he has ever fired a gun. He said “we do skeet shooting all the time,” except for his daughters, at Camp David, the presidential retreat in Maryland.
The White House photo released Saturday is dated Aug. 4, 2012, and shows Obama shooting at clay targets on the range at Camp David.
{The rifle is cocked}
*********************
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in Obama’s left shoulder, his left index finger is on the trigger and smoke is coming from the barrel.
Obama is pushing a package of gun-control measures in response to the Newtown, Conn., school shooting.
====================================
Hmm, interesting…. Despite my earlier ELC analysis showing no significant evidence of photoshgopping, I enlarged the photo and there are indeed ports on the side of the barrel facing the camera. Yet no smoke from them. Weird. I guess whoever ‘shopped’ the photo for him is really good at the job .
(Unfortunately for them, whoever set that photo up has no experience in shooting, and I still have no doubt that he is shootin’ blanks.
And indeed that thing on the end of the top muzzle is a brass choke tube extended beyond the muzzle.
Then there is the little matter of his stance, which is fundamentally wrong.
Yes, I know, the head tilt being part of an improper stance. I pointed it out to draw attention to the fact that his eye is below the plane of the rib.
single stack:Its a RIFLE,…………..(Sarc)
LOL. I really did LOL when I read that at the linked article.
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He always looks like such a wimp in these “action” photos whether it’s riding a bike, throwing a baseball or shooting a gun.
Wigglesworth on February 2, 2013 at 11:52 AM
He even shoots from the left.
Communist to the core
BobMbx on February 2, 2013 at 11:52 AM
I’m waiting for someone to get a hold of the original image, examine the EXIF data to find out where and when it was taken.
I think we’ll be amused by what is found.
Shepherd Lover on February 2, 2013 at 11:54 AM
I’d like to see take up Wingsuit Proximity Flying.
mrsmwp on February 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM
Obviously staged… and badly at that, by people who never shot anything more than a BB gun or airsoft.
LegendHasIt on February 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM
[1] The bottom-barrel ports are directly underneath the top ones. And no, the ports look to be (IMO) about 45° off the vertical axis of the barrel (basically at right-angles off the center line).
[2] Those are propellant gases… if I had to guess, they had the photo guy do an ‘auto-fire’ on the shutter as he pulled the trigger… please note they went out of their way to post a photo of the weapon discharging.
Too bad they have anybody about to tell the TOTUS raise the barrels a little more cause I can’t imagine what’s he shooting at…
CPT. Charles on February 2, 2013 at 11:57 AM
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Obama, clinging to somebody else’s gun, for a photo op.
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cntrlfrk on February 2, 2013 at 11:58 AM
Hmmm. You might be right.
It would fit with most everything else they do. Do exactly what they claim no one should do.
Mimzey on February 2, 2013 at 11:58 AM
Not “all of the time,” which was the most laughable part of his original statement. So laughable, in fact, that even the CNN White House correspondent, Jessica Yellin, incredulously asked The Spokeskid about it.
Obama uses Camp David less than any other President and skeet shooting isn’t something high on the list of usual daily activities in Martha’s Vineyard or Hawaii. At most, according to the WH reporter at the WaPo, who studies the President’s diary, he’s done it twice.
“All of the time” = Twice
“A middle class family will see their health insurance premiums DECREASE by 3,000%” = “The cheapest policy under Obamacare will cost $20,000″
Resist We Much on February 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM
Brat on February 2, 2013 at 12:00 PM
Oh, and let’s not forget who the original “Skeeters” were:
The New Republic Pushes Fake Picture of Obama Skeet Shooting…Then Blames Twitter. (UPDATED: Original Golf Photo Included)
Resist We Much on February 2, 2013 at 12:01 PM
Nice form lefty… I see you use your left hand to shoot as well.
Kaptain Amerika on February 2, 2013 at 12:02 PM
A couple of real skeet shooting pictures:
Angles that are more reasonable. Scroll to the bottom picture
Low angle, but look at the angle he is leaning and position on the forearm.
POTUS shots like a girl
AZfederalist on February 2, 2013 at 12:03 PM
…WTF is he shooting at?…really?
KOOLAID2 on February 2, 2013 at 12:05 PM
When will his scores be released? I’m already impressed, but wanting to hear details, like Dear Leader’s golf scores.
Drained Brain on February 2, 2013 at 12:06 PM
I’m assuming that there is a prominent military charity that they can find that would want to be involved with it. The thing is that Obama is just so thin skinned that he couldn’t laugh off what was an obvious bald-faced pander and turn it around into something positive like that.. Clinton, Reagan, Bush all could.
Illinidiva on February 2, 2013 at 12:06 PM
I shoot handguns left handed, rifles and shotguns right.
jawkneemusic on February 2, 2013 at 12:06 PM
So Obama went skeet shooting on his birthday? Yeah, right.
fight like a girl on February 2, 2013 at 12:06 PM
They’re keeping the original image in the safe with his birth certificate.
petefrt on February 2, 2013 at 12:09 PM
He has a gut.
IR-MN on February 2, 2013 at 12:10 PM
What a frail, pathetic little man.
thirtyandseven on February 2, 2013 at 12:11 PM
I’m wondering if he’s getting paid for the Nike endorsement.
BigWyo on February 2, 2013 at 12:12 PM
I’ve never doubted he fired a shotgun at least once.
The “all the time” part was the lie.
The reverse inverted straw man well executed.
forest on February 2, 2013 at 12:15 PM
I did an error level analysis on the photo, and the smoke (nor anything else) does appear to NOT be photoshopped in…. But there is no evidence of recoil in his posture, so I’m betting it was a blank.
I found the original uploaded image on flikr (not the actual original image, unfortunately and all exif data has been erased.
Unlike the previous picture in the photostream which has the full exif data embedded.
And note their scare warning…
Which, if the photo was done by a government employee, or on government property, they can’t legally enforce. That photo is OURS to do with as we please.
LegendHasIt on February 2, 2013 at 12:16 PM
If you look carefully you can see where they photoshopped away the red flag which says BANG hanging out of the barrel.
Oh yeah, the shotgun sure looks like an ACME Model Wile E. to me.
viking01 on February 2, 2013 at 12:16 PM
Why do you hate “the people” so much? Marxist dictators accomplish amazing feats as a result of they love the receive from “the people.” We shant question the miracles that are achieved through “people power.”
Believe, you naughty skeptic, BELIEVE.
lol
Resist We Much on February 2, 2013 at 12:20 PM
Perfect.
petefrt on February 2, 2013 at 12:22 PM
The main issue here is Americans have a constitutional right to guns for something WAY more important than to engage in an elitist sport like shooting skeet…
We have this right to defend ourselves from governmental tyranny…Obama’s tyranny, specifically.
marybel on February 2, 2013 at 12:25 PM
Snark aside, the question is not whether Obama has ever shot a high-end shotgun of a style often used for skeet shooting, but whether he has actually shot skeet and whether he does it “all the time” as claimed. This photograph addresses neither of those questions.
deepdiver on February 2, 2013 at 12:27 PM
Ouch. Should’ve been:
Resist We Much on February 2, 2013 at 12:29 PM
What would explain Obama going out at 8:30 PM on a beautiful evening in August that has him holding the shotgun dead level.
Not shooting skeet, that’s for sure. Shooting targets would, and particularly so if the targets were pictures of Mitt Romney.
No wait, Obama loves to go skeet shooting after Kim Rhodes sets a record for gold medals by winning a gold medal in skeet shooting and he gets to talk about it that day in his weekly radio address along with the fact that he’s jealous that Michelle got to go to the Olympics and he couldn’t.
Dusty on February 2, 2013 at 12:31 PM
That would explain the gas plume in front of the wad coming out.
AZfederalist on February 2, 2013 at 12:41 PM
I hate to be a tin foil hatter, but anybody who’s watched or participated in skeet shooting knows that it’s pretty rare to wait until the clay is at eye level to shoot at it, at that point it’s almost on the ground, which is what the picture here suggests. So yeah, either it was staged or Obama just isn’t very good at skeet, one is just as likely as the other.
clearbluesky on February 2, 2013 at 12:41 PM
I’m surprised the WH felt a need to release this in the first place. Something rotten in Austria.
Del Dolemonte on February 2, 2013 at 12:44 PM
If the barrel is ground level it’s likely Zero and his Muslim Bro’hood cronies shooting at some Jooos.
viking01 on February 2, 2013 at 12:44 PM
Pure PR Photo-Op!
=================
The Associated Press @AP
Before gun control speech in Minnesota, White House releases photo of Obama firing a gun: http://apne.ws/Y102U9 -CJ
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_GUNS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
canopfor on February 2, 2013 at 1:05 PM
The clay targets are all white male R/Cs.
Schadenfreude on February 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM
He can only shoot from the mouth, and that not well…
Schadenfreude on February 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM
Yeah, but POTUS is shooting a double-barrel, and that is so totally different! /s
I’m pretty sure that’s not the wad. I think what folks are seeing is what appears to be a brass choke in the muzzle. (Which corresponds to the Browning Cynergy someone pointed out earlier.) If there is something else there I can’t see it.
GWB on February 2, 2013 at 1:11 PM
Looks like a Browning from the gold trigger. I might shoot that low if it was a pheasant skimming the brush tops or for patterning, but not for any clay games.
claudius on February 2, 2013 at 1:12 PM
Looks like he’s a shoot first, aim later kind of guy.
El_Terrible on February 2, 2013 at 1:13 PM
When shooting rifles and shotguns the cheek is placed firmly on the comb of the stock in what is called a “cheek weld”. If you don’t do it, you can’t align your eye with the sights properly, and it hurts a lot when the gun smacks you.
Obama is not aiming this shotgun. He’s simply firing a shot for a publicity pic.
His head is tilted forward and his eye is below the plane of the barrel rib.
You don’t aim a shotgun the way you do a rifle. With a shotgun the eye is actually the rear sight. To place the “rear sight” correctly the head is held erect and the gun is mounted to the shoulder and a cheek weld is obtained. This places the eye above the plane of the barrel.
The way Barry is holding that shotgun if it was actually a full power shell it hurt when he pulled the trigger.
I’m skeptical that it was full power because, first, it’s odd that smoke only came from the ports on the right side of the barrel. I’ve never seen that in all the ported shotguns I’ve seen fired.
Second, there is no indication of recoil in his body. With a pic taken at the instant of firing the recoil should be obvious.
I’m not sure what’s sticking out of the end of the top barrel, unless it’s an extended choke tube.
single stack on February 2, 2013 at 1:15 PM
Obama is not aiming this shotgun
single stack on February 2, 2013 at 1:15 PM
single stack:Its a RIFLE,…………..(Sarc)
The Obama,Over/under shotgun image!!!
White House releases photo of Obama firing gun
Associated Press – 1 hr 28 mins ago
************************************
WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House has released a photo of President Barack Obama firing a gun, two days before he heads to Minnesota to discuss gun control.
In a recent interview with The New Republic magazine, Obama said “yes” when asked if he has ever fired a gun. He said “we do skeet shooting all the time,” except for his daughters, at Camp David, the presidential retreat in Maryland.
The White House photo released Saturday is dated Aug. 4, 2012, and shows Obama shooting at clay targets on the range at Camp David.
{The rifle is cocked}
*********************
=====================
in Obama’s left shoulder, his left index finger is on the trigger and smoke is coming from the barrel.
Obama is pushing a package of gun-control measures in response to the Newtown, Conn., school shooting.
====================================
http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-releases-photo-obama-firing-gun-162849843–politics.html
canopfor on February 2, 2013 at 1:14 PM
canopfor on February 2, 2013 at 1:19 PM
I figured Zero was shooting at the chauffeur for dropping his golf clubs.
viking01 on February 2, 2013 at 1:21 PM
Then there is the little matter of his stance, which is fundamentally wrong.
CorporatePiggy on February 2, 2013 at 1:21 PM
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canopfor on February 2, 2013 at 1:25 PM
The Associated Press @AP
AP PHOTOS: From Teddy Roosevelt to Obama, a look at U.S. presidents holding guns: http://apne.ws/WlWTBK – KM
=========================================
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OBAMA_GUNS_PHOTO_GALLERY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-02-02-13-19-19
canopfor on February 2, 2013 at 1:30 PM
He wasn’t shooting skeet, he was shooting a dog named “skeet”
El_Terrible on February 2, 2013 at 1:32 PM
Hmm, interesting…. Despite my earlier ELC analysis showing no significant evidence of photoshgopping, I enlarged the photo and there are indeed ports on the side of the barrel facing the camera. Yet no smoke from them. Weird. I guess whoever ‘shopped’ the photo for him is really good at the job .
(Unfortunately for them, whoever set that photo up has no experience in shooting, and I still have no doubt that he is shootin’ blanks.
And indeed that thing on the end of the top muzzle is a brass choke tube extended beyond the muzzle.
LegendHasIt on February 2, 2013 at 1:35 PM
Yes, I know, the head tilt being part of an improper stance. I pointed it out to draw attention to the fact that his eye is below the plane of the rib.
LOL. I really did LOL when I read that at the linked article.
single stack on February 2, 2013 at 1:36 PM
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